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To: Victor Lazlo who wrote (150380)	11/28/2002 2:03:13 PM
From: H James Morris	Respond to of 164687

For frugal online shoppers only.;^) <<November 28, 2002 SAN FRANCISCO – It's a holiday tradition for many consumers: opening the newspaper over the Thanksgiving weekend to digest all the ads stuffed with tantalizing deals. But all those post-Thanksgiving sales already are old news to the thousands of consumers who frequent bargain-hunting Web sites that make money by helping people save money online and off. Fulfilling the mission sometimes means passing along sensitive information, rankling retailers. That's what happened earlier this month when a handful of deal-sharing sites infuriated Wal-Mart, Target and other retail giants by posting confidential information about the stores' post-Thanksgiving sales. After the retailers threatened to prosecute for alleged violations of digital copyright laws, two things happened: The sites removed the sales lists, and news coverage of the breach drove even more consumers there. Traffic at FatWallet.com is up by about 20 percent since the merchants issued their Nov. 20 legal threats, said Tim Storm, owner of the Roscoe, Ill.-based service. The retailers "ended up doing us a favor by bringing more attention to us," Storm said. "If people hear about an opportunity where they might save more money, they are going to want to find out more about it." The timing couldn't have been better for bargain-hunting sites that become even more useful during the holiday shopping season. The sites make money by collecting customer referral fees and sales commissions. In some cases, merchants even pay to have their coupons and other special deals displayed prominently. But the sites also rely heavily on a community of frugal shoppers who post information about coupons and other deals. Special software enables the sites to collect their referral fees when visitors click on a mentioned deal. The recent crackdown on the Thanksgiving leaks caused an outcry on online message boards. Many consumers noted that the postings amounted to free advertising for merchants, and some even urged a boycott of the stores that demanded the removals. Merchants, though, believe they have the right to control when information is released. "It's a question of fairness for us," said Wal-Mart spokesman Bill Wertz. "We don't think it's fair for some consumers to have information like this ahead of others." In other instances, the bargain-hunting sites have antagonized retailers by pointing out mistakes at e-commerce sites so people can capitalize before merchants fix them. The sites "are all about trying to take advantage of the system," said Pamela Swartwood, a spokeswoman for PriceGrabber.com, one of several popular online price comparison sites that work closely with retailers. The information offered by bargain-hunting sites has made Web destinations such as FatWallet, DealCatcher, FlamingoWorld, MyCoupons, DealoftheDay, Amazing-Bargains and CleverMoms mandatory stops for Internet-savvy shoppers. Still, their audiences are relatively small. FatWallet, for instance, has 45,000 registered users. "They all have developed loyal communities, but the average person who goes online still doesn't know about them," said online shopping analyst Geri Spieler of GartnerG2. More mainstream growth will emerge as more of the nation's estimated 30 million coupon clippers shift their shopping habits online, predicted Matt Coffin, president of LowerMyBills.com. "Americans just love to save money," Coffin said. signonsandiego.com