To: epicure who wrote (68741 ) 11/27/2002 2:44:23 PM From: one_less Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 82486 "Like I said, with you I assume it is a ploy to make things more difficult than they need to be, but I don't "know" that for sure." "...you can't really know can you?" Actually, I am pretty sure we use the term "know" in different contexts and that some times you use it in one context but argue a different context when convenient...like the word "really." Some things I know. I know that you have stated a preference for withholding information because from your point of view this affords you power; as when you said "knowledge is power" in the context of withholding information. I notice posts where a participant clearly lines out the parameters for information exchange and you provide an odd sort of limited response that doesn't provide the information that would qualify as a complete transaction. So, some times your posts are labeled "non-response;" meaning not the transactional equivalent of the post you are responding too. You have made a big issue of how gullible any one would be to simply take your posts (or anyone else's on SI) as a genuine opinion that represents the agent of the SI handle/alias. You have also said everything here is about points and not about communicating authentically to share and gain a better understanding of topics and issues. Also there is the "Fire with fire" tit for tat communication that seems merely about gaining the upper hand in a contentious personal exchange. If the intention of other posters is to share information and gain understandings on topics and issues, then these elements entangle otherwise forthright communication and make it difficult to move in a constructive manner. If they were unconscious idiosyncratic quirks that were unintended I would not call them ploys, but since you have to some extent come clean on your strategic uses of gamesman ship that is unsettling and disrupts the flow of otherwise normal discussions, then I can draw the conclusions that you do engage them as ploys to make communication difficult. At times you seem to go into a more genuine mode of sharing information on a topic. This in it self seems strategic since it prevents participants from "really knowing" when ploys are being engaged and when they are not. At times almost all of us are unsure what another poster's position is. The typical genuine approach is for us work to check understanding or to clarify. When that is presented to you some of us get evasive comments instead of clarifying responses. Well that is some of the evidence I have. I know based on the evidence that you engage in ploys to make communication difficult but that it is not provable when you are or are not without you fessing up, which you are not likely to do based on the "knowledge is power" strategy. For these reasons, I feel confident in saying that miscommunications happen with you in ways that they don't with most other people and that it is probably related to ploys to make things difficult that you are deliberately engaging. I am just not sure when a misunderstanding is deliberately being promoted on your part and when a misunderstanding could be excused as an oversight on the readers part or an mistatement on the writers part. The over all lack of effective communication therefore is definitely specific to you and not other posters; and I grant you the greater share of responsibility for having control over that. But, "really know" who knows what you mean by that. I doubt you even do.