To: Snowshoe who wrote (818 ) 11/28/2002 12:42:54 AM From: marcos Respond to of 1293 A happy Thanksgiving to our fellow americans the US nationals .... even you Snowshoe, who should properly have celebrated yours on or before 14 October when we had ours, due to your greater distance from the equator and all, but i suppose it is a thing that goes by nationality and not logic, like so many things in this world Agricultural subsidies are hypocritical the world over ... very ancient idea, that each state be self-sufficient in food, first priority even above munitions, which can be smuggled in in a pinch .... the farmer feeds us all, that is a fact .... also, as urban populations have grown wildly over the last decades the electoral divisions have not kept up with demographic trends, this is true all over, so a vote in a rural constituency is worth several times that of a city dweller .... Japan is the starkest example i believe, that's why you see little strips of rice paddy in between skyscrapers, it's the power of the farmer made real in tax and land tenure structure ... Europe too, it's the same problem as when the UK was getting rid of the 'rotten boroughs' in the 1830s, people didn't want to give up power even if they only had two houses and three votes left in the riding It goes right to the gut, the whole issue of food .... i don't know the wheat business at all, but have heard tales on the radio here of squabbles between farmers who want to opt out of the wheat board, and the rest of the farmers plus w.b. management who want to deny them the right .... on the face of it, i can sure understand the guy who produces and then objects to being told what to do with his product .... personally, i would grow another product, that no one controlled .... yet [edit] - just try that with canola though, if any of the frankenfood pollen blows into your field, poof you're in court as a defendant as Monsanto or whoever sues you ..... you're supposed to put saran wrap over your crop or something .... why don't they cover theirs, is my question - what blows in the air is common to all ... you should be able to sue them , for infecting your own crop