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To: goldworldnet who wrote (324025)11/29/2002 10:22:52 AM
From: calgal  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
America isn't perfect. So why does Iraq have to be to give root to democracy?

BY DANIEL HENNINGER
Friday, November 29, 2002 12:01 a.m. EST

URL:http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/dhenninger/?id=110002705

This being Thanksgiving weekend, how about sending a thank-you note to the Founding Fathers, who presumably spent the day serving turkey and fixings to an A-list of deities. We thank them, Lord, for delivering unto us a system of government and politics that has brought us to November 2002--in one piece. On the evidence all around in the heaving world, the act of staying in one piece--as a nation or as persons--is not assured. But here, a civilized politics survives and endures. James Carville may sound like someone who'd like to put bombs in GOP mailboxes, but he doesn't. We don't. We talk, politick and then hold elections. And then do it again. That virtually every hyper-politicized soul in a nation of 260 million people, of this size, in 50 separate states has abided this system for so long is reason enough to loft a prayer at the Founders.

These thoughts may be especially apt now in the lengthening shadow of September 11. Coming through that day was accomplishment enough, but the United States has done something that goes considerably beyond just standing its ground. It is striking back against its attackers, partly in retaliation but as well to ensure that the American system survives. The foundational document on this commitment remains President Bush's address to Congress explaining and justifying the need to declare war on global terror. He said, "This is the fight of all who believe in progress and pluralism, tolerance and freedom."

Those four words--progress, pluralism, tolerance and freedom--are essentially those for which we give thanks to our Founders but which the leaders of a rather large number of nations, even at this late date in history, refuse to extend to their own people. As Thanksgiving is the one day of the year that Americans are permitted to give vent without apology to dewy-eyed idealism, we offer our own: Oh Lord, allow us to kick Saddam's hard behind not merely for our own protection, though that counts for a lot, but to give the people of Iraq a chance to join the world of democratic peoples.



Now, even on Thanksgiving there are sophisticated Americans who will gag at that thought, and around Europe the gagging over Iraqi democracy is widely seen; let them stew is the elite European view. The notion that those people could bring order to their political affairs anything like the way we do is thought to be unimaginable.
Really? Allow me describe a few things about our own blessed democracy that aren't imaginary. In the election just completed, of 435 seats contested in the U.S. House of Representatives, about 420 were not competitive races due mainly to gerrymandering, which means the pols get to pick who votes for them. That works out to a can't-lose percentage of almost 97%. Quiz: Name the only other world leader whose "re-election" came within 2% of that guarantee.

In America we also: Allowed a losing Senate candidate in New Jersey to quit in the stretch so an old pol could rise from the crypt and beat his opponent; have a Justice department task force to monitor voter fraud; waged a holy war over "hanging chads"; and routinely hear esteemed figures, such as John McCain, call our election system a mockery.

But America works, democratic pimples and all, which must mean that a nation of imperfect men can manage a democracy. Nor does anyone doubt that the Cubans could get a democracy up and running if Fidel went; similarly, the Chinese. So why not Iraqis, Saudis, Syrians, Jordanians or Yemenis? Russians lived in the spiritual rendering factory called communism for 70 years, and eastern Europeans for 40; all are now democratic. It was impossible not to be moved last week by the sight in Vilnius of Lithuanians continuously interrupting George Bush's speech on human freedom to chant "Thank you" in Lithuanian? Are the people of the Middle East so different that they might not some day do the same?

The Saudis' medieval dynasty monopolizes the world's views of the region. But next door in Bahrain, the scene of fire-bombings not long ago, Sheik Hamad bin Isa Al Khalifa has set out to do for his nation what King Juan Carlos of Spain did for his--give it democracy. When the people of Bahrain got a chance to vote on the prospect of changing to a constitutional form of government, some 98% did so; one suspects that majority was legitimate. Qatar and Oman may follow. In the just-released Index of Economic Freedom, published by this newspaper and the Heritage Foundation, Palestinian scholar Khalil Shikaki says, "We want to be a democracy. We don't want to be a corrupt, mismanaged entity--just another Arab country."

Probably the largest impediment to realizing this dream was described succinctly by political scientist James Q. Wilson recently in City Journal: The religion of Islam must find a way to live in the modern world. It cannot compel religious faith with homicide. Nigeria's repulsive Miss World slaughter confirms that.



Of course, the people of the West once settled political disagreements in blood and enforced religious belief with fire and the blade. But rising levels of education and economic well-being made medieval traditions both self-defeating and well, ridiculous. The Middle East remains one of the most economically backward regions of the world, but it is unlikely that its leadership can keep the world at bay forever. In time, even they must feel the winds of modernity, by which one means education and economic growth--what we call progress. Progress in turn will inevitably bring with it, as it did for the West, the leveling of social status known as equality. That is democracy, and it is hard to imagine that Iraqis would not embrace it were we to offer it to them.
Mr. Henninger is deputy editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page. His column appears Fridays in the Journal and on OpinionJournal.com.



To: goldworldnet who wrote (324025)11/29/2002 10:24:58 AM
From: calgal  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 769670
 
PEGGY NOONAN

Stand Up and Take It Like an American
In a free society, sometimes you pay a price for your beliefs.

BY PEGGY NOONAN
Friday, November 29, 2002 12:01 a.m. EST

URL:http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=110002699

There is so much to be thankful for that no column could begin to encompass it. Here are just three things, from the past year:

1. The continuance of the new patriotism which is marked not by a tinny boastfulness but by an intellectually and emotionally experienced fidelity to and respect for the founding ideas, documents and assumptions which have guided us since we declared our independence from the mother country 226 years ago.

2. A still-broad prosperity.

3. An enjoyment of religious freedom that is so much a part of the air we breathe, so expected, that we barely remember to be thankful for it. Yes I know they look down on American religious feeling in our great universities, but the Ivy League isn't America. The suburbs of Dallas where they busy themselves doing, among other things, Christian outreach to topless dancers is America.

There is much to be happy about. But why wallow in good cheer? My subject today is not something we have gained the past few years but something we've lost. Or seemingly lost.

It is an old, stark bit of knowledge. It is something Americans used to be born knowing, or at least picked up along the way.

It is this: You pay a price for where you stand. And this isn't terrible.

On "NBC Nightly news" last week there was a story. You've probably seen it. An Eagle Scout is fighting the Boy Scouts of America because they won't let him be a troop leader. They won't let him be a troop leader because he has declared he is an atheist. The BSA sees it as part of its mission to encourage the love of God in the young. An atheist, in their reasoning, is unlikely to help young boys love God. So they don't want him to be a scout leader.
He, naturally, is suing. How dare the scouts deny him his right to be an atheist!

But the scouts aren't denying him his right to be an atheist. They're denying him the right to be a BSA troop leader.

The young man has received much sympathetic press suggesting he is a victim of narrow-mindedness.

But he's not. He's a victim of not knowing you pay a price for where you stand.

In the America of 50 years ago and a 100 years ago and 1776, this is how it went:

You, a citizen, decide you want to belong to a group but you believe in "A" and they believe in "B." There is a clash. Here the old American myth kicks in. You, the citizen, stick with what you believe, and don't join the organization. You won't lie about what you believe, and they won't change what they believe. So they don't let you in. You pay a price for where you stand. But you can keep standing there.

You keep your integrity, and maybe in time the group will change and you and your suffering will be the reason. (This is the story of, among others, Dr. King in the Birmingham jail.) Or maybe the group won't change its ways, ever. But you have your integrity and they have their rules and this is America.

Now that rough old myth has been disturbed. Now it's, "I have my views and your group has its views. If you don't accept me with my views you're wrong, and will suffer in court." Now you insist on joining. You insist they change to accommodate you. You don't respect their position, you insist they alter it. You get a lawyer. You weep and rend your garments.

This is not a good way to convert people. It is however a good way to push people around.

We are a big muscle-bound nation. We are so physically strong! We have muscles and missiles and more. But how did we, as individuals, get so wussy, so weak, so whiny when it comes to our ability to stand for what we stand for and take the world's blows?

Why do we celebrate those who complain? Why don't we celebrate stoics who can take it? They're the ones who move history forward.

Let me not pick on a teenager, for teenagers are by definition unfinished. They often confuse their needs and wants with the world's. Let's pick on adults. Let's pick on Tom Daschle.
He, as a leader of a great political party, is an example-setter for the young. Some of them might look to him as a famous man who knows how to be an adult. After the dreadful showing of the Democrats in the election he held a news conference in which he famously blamed Rush Limbaugh and other conservative radio talk show hosts for inciting people to . . . well, to not liking Tom Daschle. Rush says mean things about Tom. His listeners, who Tom Daschle subtly suggests are possibly unstable and insane--how could they not be, they're conservative--get a little too excited when they hear Rush, and start to make rude sounds. "The threat level goes up," says Tom Daschle.

Oh, please. Boo hoo. When people disagree with you they criticize you. When you're trying to tell an entire nation how to live, which is what big-time politics comes down to now, some people will fight back with terrible weapons such as sarcasm, irony and vulgarity. They will sometimes be mean. So what?

Tom: Grownups pay a price for where they stand! Being put down by conservatives is the price you pay. Is it really too much?

Rush Limbaugh has 20 million listeners. If Tom Daschle wants to make progress for his side why doesn't he go on his show and talk to them? Take call-ins, explain your views, be a man, move the ball forward.

The same week Tom Daschle made his remarks I read of comments made by the columnist Anna Quindlen. She said, as she has in the past--she says it a lot, actually--that she gets a lot of hate mail because of the views she holds. I don't doubt it. But when she speaks of it she always seems to be suggesting she has a lot of courage to write what she writes. See what I have to put up with, and see how I persevere. There's an air of indignation. Do you believe what a nice liberal has to put up with from these right-wing primitives?

Well Anna, and Tom, I have never written of this or even spoken of it, but let me tell you something.

My political philosophy is conservative. I am pro-life. I live in New York City, surrounded by modern people. They are mostly left-wing, they are all pro-choice, many of them passionately and even furiously so. I have written books saying Ronald Reagan is a great man and Hillary Clinton is a bad woman. I know something about being a target, and I know something about hate mail. I have received not hundreds but thousands of the most personal and obscene denunciations; I have received death threats; I have been threatened with blackmail; I have been informed that I do not deserve to live; I have received a three page typed double spaced letter with perfect grammar and syntax the first sentence of which was "Dr. Ms Noonan, Let me explain to you why you are a . . ." and here I cannot suggest the word used. But damned if he didn't make a good case. I used to hear regularly from a woman who'd tell me she hopes I have a brain hemorrhage.

I have never talked about this because I would consider speaking of it both self-pitying and self-aggrandizing. But there's another reason. I'm a grownup. I know you pay a price for the stands you take.

It's a disputatious world. Rocks get thrown. I could make myself safer by changing my views, but why would I abandon what I think is true so that people I think are wrong will like me? That doesn't make sense. So I stand where I stand and pay. And you know what? Too bad. Tough. That's life. Nothing is free. If you hold a controversial position you will draw controversy and its cousins: denunciation, dislike, etc. It's the price you pay. And unlike Tom Daschle, I pay it without a taxpayer-funded security team to keep me safe.

So that's what I think our culture is losing and wants to get back: The old stoic sense that you pay a price to stand where you stand. This, ultimately, is the story not only of all adults who fully take part in the world but of America itself. It is the story of all political and personal heroism (here's to you, Pilgrims); it is the story of all progress (here's to you, fighters of the Civil War) and the story of all hope (a final tip of the hat to you, Martin Luther King Jr.; and another to you, Ronnie).
The great question, as Diana Trilling once said, is how high a price you'll pay, how much you'll suffer. That's a question we all answer every day by the way we live our lives.

So that's what I think. If I have offended you or you disagree with me, press the reply button at the end of this piece and feel free to tell me what a jerk I am. I can take it. It's the price an adult pays.

Ms. Noonan is a contributing editor of The Wall Street Journal. Her most recent book, "When Character Was King: A Story of Ronald Reagan," is published by Viking Penguin. You can buy it from the OpinionJournal bookstore.



To: goldworldnet who wrote (324025)11/29/2002 11:22:41 AM
From: Cola Can  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
With a proper education more would be able to get good
jobs and make responsible decisions for themselves.


With a proper education, they wouldn't vote democrat. Who
has all the trouble with voting? Answer: Democrats.
Fla proved that. As I said, several times, during the
last Pres. election decision, the democrat motto is:

1. Keep'em dumb
2. Keep'em down
3. Keep a vote