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To: tejek who wrote (155451)12/1/2002 8:32:31 AM
From: hmaly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1579750
 
Ted Re...First, kids are not necessarily targeted by suicide bombers but rather Israelis in general which may well include children just as Israeli missiles are targeting specific targets that may well include Palestinian children<<<

Other than the driver, just how many adults would you expect on a school bus?

Secondly, I don't have specific numbers but urban violence kills a number of children every year in the US. Many happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time just like with the Israeli and Palestinian children. Apples to apples........I think yes.

Other than accidental shootings, such as innocent victims in a drive by shooting, I do not know of any specific case where a gang has targeted children, such as we have seen the Palestinians doing. Link please.

Do you really believe this is the only time in history when Christians have been encouraged to committ violence against others?

Certainly the crusades were such a time. However, the crusades have been comdemned by even the leaders of the church. When are the leaders of Islam going to do likewise?

Utter nonsense? How quickly you neutralized everything I said to nothing. Why is it okay to separate American violence from any religion but determine that it is religion that motivates the Palestinians to violence?

No american branch of any church that I know of has encouraged violence; however Islamic leaders have sanctioned violence against Israel.

http://www.islam.tc/cgi-bin/askimam/cat.pl?c=Islamic%20Politics

Here is one Islamic site. Read the letters. Here is one.

http://islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=3991

It wasn't the Palestinians who attacked the Israelis in 1948, and ever since there has never been an opportunity for the Palestinians to have their own state. If you believe otherwise, I would appreciate seeing the link [s] that provides you with that information.

Easily done. Just go to google and enter "Palestine"

http://www.palestine-net.com/history/bhist.html

Read the entries from 1945 until 1950 which tells of the mandate, the attempts to divide the mandate into Jewish and Palestinian areas, and Arab rejection of any and all partition plans.



To: tejek who wrote (155451)12/1/2002 10:03:08 AM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1579750
 
First, kids are not necessarily targeted by suicide bombers but rather Israelis in general which may well include children just as Israeli missiles are targeting specific targets that may well include Palestinian children

There you go again. Tejek, Grand Apologist for Cold-Blooded Murderers.

The Palestinians routinely target civilian establishments, even busses LOADED with school children. Israel has ONLY targeted locations which are known to contain those responsible.

Many happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time just like with the Israeli and Palestinian children.

A bus which is routinely used to carry kids to and from school is targeted and it HAPPENS to be full of school kids.

The only example that is close would be if the people who bomb abortion clinics were told to do so by their preachers. Even if that did happen, the action and the people who did it would be readily put in the 'kook' column by most Christians.
Do you really believe this is the only time in history when Christians have been encouraged to committ violence against others?


Support for those who were bombing abortion clinics was almost non-existent amongst Christians at large. Support for the violent arm of Islam's suicide bombings (against both America and Israel) is present is a substantial minority, if not a majority, of Islamic believers.