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To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (324508)	12/2/2002 5:35:11 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 769670

"Scouts...promoting time-tested values and basic social decency instead of all these friggin' godless fudge packers." If it is your crude values expressed above that Scouts promote, they are then being taught to be a hate filled group and have little claim on morals.... Your bigotry knows no bounds....first you denigrate gay men and at the same time make the utterly stupid generalization that homosexuals, male and female, are also atheistic which to your warped mind is the cause of homosexuality and paramount to criminality. I have the feeling your bigotry is not limited and also includes blacks, jews,muslims, and probably catholics. You propose a theory that "Where there exists one human, there also exists two other humans within him." If that be so, what prevents the female "human" within the male body from being attracted to other males?? And to further disrupt your conjecture, data suggest that there may be more bisexuals than homosexuals; how does your simplistic two person model handle this phenomenon?? I anticipate that you will dismiss such people again as godless immoralists and imagine that if only they believed in Jesus they wouldn't behave that way.. Can you imagine performing fellatio on another male as a matter of choice? If you really view homosexuality as a choice, then we all must have such choices and I'd to know when you made your choice? Re: As to the immorality of atheists,...You say," that an atheist lives as if his terms are ultimately the only terms that matter. And yet, if God truly existed, there is just no way for the atheist to ever descry Him on those terms." An atheists lives by the terms he sees before him and not the terms he imagines some supernatural spirit might want him to live by. I think it safe to say that most atheists are humanists and as such conduct their lives based on a rational philosophy informed by science and motivated by compassion. Judging by your demonstrated lack of compassion it is difficult to see your claims of morality as being more worthy than an atheist's. Atheists, by definition, are thinking people as opposed to, not all, but at least billions of religionists. You then have the balls to declare yourself among "those of us who have been given a view beyond nature" What arrogance..Just what makes you think someone or something gave you such a view beyond nature when many great minds that have inhabited this planet never claimed such views. Cite your evidence please, in non-religious terms. I have no objection to being called blasphemous for not accepting your god. But to say I am blasphemous because "against knowledge I am against any extra-natural Being" is nonsensical. Against knowledge.... knowledge of what??? Knowledge infers facts are available. Describe your facts, describe what your god looks like....does he/she/it care about your personally, eg does he admonish you for your bigotry?? Forgetting the boy scouts for the moment, I repeat my question as to why you refer to Jews as a race and not a religion....?