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To: Mani1 who wrote (155488)	12/2/2002 9:25:51 AM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1579778

But if we have learned anything from history, that fact by itself does not show that Islam, the religion, is the problem. Okay, fine. What IS the problem, if not the religion? Are you going to blame the Jews?

To: Mani1 who wrote (155488)	12/2/2002 10:55:31 PM
From: hmaly	Respond to of 1579778

Mani Re.. don't know of any "Islam leader" other than those of the black Moslem movement. And I would think they denounced the violence unconditionally. I haven't heard of any. Most of the statements put out by the leaders seemed more concerned about violence directed against them in retribution. Perhaps it is just the vay the news was reported, but that is what I remember. Is he leader enough for you? If not him then who? The writer of that letter was a professor of Arabic studies at a midwestern college, not a leader, or Imam, or ayatollah. In fact, in the letter, he asks that the Moslem leaders should publicly denounce 9/11. If he would have been in a position to speak for the arab community, I am sure he would have. To end this discussion, I will agree that Islam in its current method of practice by middle eastern countries is violent and uncivilized. But if we have learned anything from history, that fact by itself does not show that Islam, the religion, is the problem.<< The problem seems trifold. First, the Quran is open to interpretation, such that Islam could be interpreted as biased and violent. Secondly, there doesn't seem to be a hierarchy, which can control the interpretation of the Quran in a manner befitting the religion. Thirdly there is no mechanism for updating the Quran into the 21st century.