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Politics : America Under Siege: The End of Innocence -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Richnorth who wrote (20248)	12/2/2002 1:31:45 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 27716

rich. you said....." I probably have not read ALL of your posts. But whatever posts of yours that I have read regarding Moslems, I get the impression that you despise them and that those readers who don't agree with you are ignorant or fence-sitters or Moslem-lovers."..... No you likely have not read all that I have posted and that is one very good reason to not refer to other posters as " Hypocrites " if you really are not sure what you are talking about. Your impression is wrong, I do not hate or despise muslims but I do fear them and what they can do to the so called free world. There are a number of recent examples of what radical muslims can do. Others posters have their own beliefs and can say what they wish and I don't give a rats ass what side of the fence they are on, course if shooting ever started I guess I would wish there were more on my side of the fence. Also IMO the islam faith is dangerous and I will continue to speak out against islam. Try to understand something....just because I believe islam is a dangerous cult does not mean that I believe that all individual muslims are dangerous, they are not and I believe that that the majority are not dangerous. IMO it is the religion of islam that provides a means for crazy radical muslims to murder innocent people. Maybe I should not use the word "crazy" as people who have been taught from birth to believe certain things have no choice but to believe what they have been taught and act accordingly. you said..." You now say you have not been anti-Moslem ".... No I do not say that....I am anti muslim the religion and all muslim radicals. Not individual muslim people who are good folks who's beliefs are different than mine. you said...." To me, a post or two here and there of yours that might be construed to "prove" you are not anti-Moslem does not prove anything at all because you can easily say things without meaning them.".... And ritch you can do the same thing. But I believe that the things you say here do reflect your feelings and that's why I for one do not like what you represent in our society. You made a mockery of Sept.11, you post anti- Jewish topics, you call other posters filthy names....the list goes on.....YOUR A MEAN ONE MR. RITCH.... You said...." Yet when you saw anti-Moslem posts you did not write anything to contradict the writers of those posts."..... When you saw many posting anti Jewish hate stuff you did not write anything to contradict the writers of those posts.... Why?

To: Richnorth who wrote (20248)	12/2/2002 1:34:57 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 27716

Here is a post of mine from past. LC. You said..." Of course you are correct in your nitpicking, however my point stands. Surely it is wrong to ascribe guilt to the many for the sins of a relative few. "..... I was not nit picking. I was trying to point out that all of us do that same thing when trying to get a point across. If we know exactly how many of the moslems were fanatics we would likely use that figure but we don't so lots of us use a blanket kind of statement just as you did. IMO it is the entire religion of islam that is the problem and it is for that reason that many of us may use the term " islam or moslems " instead of picking out an individual here or there that is responsible for murders. And of course not all moslems are fanatics who believe that killing infidels is good but a lot of them are and IMO as I have said I believe it is the islam cult that is the problem not indivdual moslems. Message 18162539

To: Richnorth who wrote (20248)	12/2/2002 1:42:01 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 27716

And this>>>> Those people who are good muslims and were in this religion only because they wanted to be better people should feel a tremendous shame and if they are good people will soon end any support for this kind of religion that would murder innocent people in the name of Allah. Those that continue to support murder under the guise of the muslim religion should be hunted down just like any other criminal and dealt with as any criminal would be. Message 16968215

To: Richnorth who wrote (20248)	12/2/2002 1:45:26 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 27716

And this>>>> Hi again Little Joe. Your statement......" . Some of the women who veil themselves are afraid to go out. Some people are displaying anti muslim sentiments on their vehicles.".... From me>>>>There is no question that it is wrong. But unfortunately it is all the excuse that nut cases need in our countries and other countries, Iran comes to mind. Our leaders have been on TV telling people it is wrong and the media has been having a field day reporting nation wide any incidents they can find and just my opinion but I think it brings out more nut cases and more incidents and so on. It is wrong, wrong, wrong and we all know it. Message 16380799