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To: Alighieri who wrote (155545)	12/2/2002 9:47:33 PM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1578901

When things seem to be going the way you just describe above the rhetoric escalates Of course. We SHOULD be escalating the rhetoric at this time, so there is no misunderstanding on the parts of Iraqis. "If you don't come totally clean, you are bringing a war on yourselves". This is pretty obvious. I think the real question is whether the Iraqis think we're bluffing. It's been shoved down it's throat under threat...is this not what we wanted? A new resolution, inspections, a declaration. We are getting them. What we WANT is Saddam OUT. It appears we may have to settle for less, i.e., weapons inspectors. I don't believe you understand the process. If they don't TELL us where the WMD are, we have no way of finding them. So a little heated rhetoric at this time, letting them KNOW we have some intelligence on the matter, only makes sense. Again, you've yet to credit Bush with what can only be considered a major foreign policy accomplishment, so I'm not sure why I think you could be convinced of anythng else.

To: Alighieri who wrote (155545)	12/2/2002 11:38:58 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578901

Alighierei Re...When things seem to be going the way you just describe above the rhetoric escalates. Witness today's speeches by Bush and Cheney, Wolfowitz on a wirlwind tour, etc... Cooperation is the last thing these guys hope for. They want exactly non cooperation so their job of justifying war is made easy. and if they don't get it, they will create fabrications, innuendo and trumped up charges. << and apparently so do you. In an answer to Tench you said. That said, there is nothing wrong with reforming our policies by beginning a process that aims to solve the Palestinian dilemma, pressures the Saudi to reform towards democracy, finishes the job in Afghanistan and deals with Iraq through the UN, with proper diplomacy and with the goal of resolving the issue effectively and hopefully through peaceful means (please don't tell me that we are already doing that). Let me ask you. What better way to accomplish all of your aims defined in that paragraph. Part of the Palestinian problem, is the meddling by the other arab neighbors. Saddam is one of the primary meddlers, through his payments to the terrorists. If GW can stop the terrorists, by cutting off their funding and support from other arab nations, a solution for Palestine could be found. Secondly, by establishing a democracy in Iraq, if successful, that would put enormous pressure on the rest of the Arab monarchies and dictatorships to do likewise. Thirdly, getting rid of Saddam and his warlords could show Afghanistan the way to democracy, and free up funds. And by putting pressure on the mullahs, Islam could be bought under control. So Iraq could be the key to what you hope for.