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To: lorne who wrote (317)12/3/2002 9:04:19 AM
From: lorne  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 15987
 
Bush backs PM on pre-emptive strikes
December 3 2002
US President George W Bush fully supports Australia's controversial threat to launch pre-emptive strikes overseas to thwart possible terrorist attacks, the White House said today.

Asked whether Bush backed Australian Prime Minster John Howard, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer replied: "The president of course supports pre-emptive action."

"September 11 changed everything, and nations must respond and change their doctrines to face new and different threats. That's the way of the world, it always has been. And a nation that remains in the status quo after an event like September 11th can only endanger its own people," he added.

Amid a storm of protest from Australia's outraged Asian neighbours, Fleischer specified that pre-emption was appropriate only "in the shadowy war against terror ... not all threats."

Howard's comment in a televised interview yesterday drew immediate condemnation by the governments of the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand, which warned against the use of military action in another country.

Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said his country would consider it an act of war if Australia launched a pre-emptive strike in his country.

"We will hold this as an attempt to wage war against the government and the country if Australia pursues its intention to attack any country to tackle terrorism," he said.

Opposition politicians also attacked Howard, urging him to withdraw the remarks and accusing him of a major diplomatic gaffe certain to worsen Australia's difficult relations with its neighbours.

"Nothing that I said yesterday was in any way directed against the countries of our region," Howard said today. "It was not in any way directed against the governments of the countries of our region."
smh.com.au



To: lorne who wrote (317)12/3/2002 1:19:24 PM
From: KLP  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15987
 
Tombstone even has a website, and the Militia Call.... What a refreshing concept....helping the government enforce the law the government has made....."Illegal immigrant" means just that...."Illegal"

These folks mean to take as many as they can find back to the Border Patrol....

tombstonetumbleweed.com

tombstonetumbleweed.com

The goal of the organization is to deter terrorists, criminals, drug dealers and illegal entrants, he said.

Its initial strategy will be to conduct patrols in areas where humanitarian water stations and beacons have been established to aid illegal entrants. The group will be "humanely assisting those who are attracted to them by way of making sure they have water and blankets and any immediate medical attention they may need," he said.

They will then be placed under citizen's arrest and turned over to the Border Patrol.



To: lorne who wrote (317)12/3/2002 4:45:30 PM
From: Hawkmoon  Respond to of 15987
 
Hawk. You think this kind of thing can/will spread?

Quite possibly.. Arizona is an interesting state where they are permitted to carry weapons openly in public places (although rarely practiced).

The Militia movement is very strong, and not necessarily anti-government. There has always been tremendous resentment at the inaction of the federal government in curtailing cross-border infiltrations of illegals and drug runners.

Hawk