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To: TigerPaw who wrote (325018)	12/3/2002 12:00:56 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Humans are involved with 'independent scientific verifications' and often they disagree over whether certain claims have been verified. These disagreements occur for a variety of reasons, not all of them noble. One only needs study the history of science and homosexuality or that of science and race to see how flawed science is by human nature. When these disagreements take place, THAT is when the political election in science takes place. Science is an election of priests and acolytes who argue and then wrest control of "truth" from one another by political consensus. It is religion in every way. It is not objective and its participants are not disinterested. Its priests are researchers and professors who from pressures to "publish, publish, publish" and win grants (parts of which are stolen from my wallet just like dang religious shysters), issue numbers of declarations that haven't a thing to do with the truth-- in many cases not even natural truth. Real science has a valid place in our natural world. But it is now worshipped by many non-thinking devotees as if it is the only path to ultimate truth - precisely as is the case with many other religions. True religion ultimately is an election only inasmuch as God Himself elects to directly reveal Himself to individuals. Its extra-natural and subjective aspect renders inappropriate an overly rigid application to it of natural scientific evaluation. But that certainly makes it no less valid than science. Indeed, today's science is limited only to an analysis of nature. And even that analysis is weak, which is why science is constantly in flux. True religion has power to let us see beyond nature. That is why it often looks strange and unsophisticated to those who are trapped within nature.

To: TigerPaw who wrote (325018)	12/3/2002 12:41:20 PM
From: goldworldnet	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

Science has always been politicized, first to the right and now to the left and anyone that can't see that is either an idiot or a liar. * * *

To: TigerPaw who wrote (325018)	12/4/2002 8:13:15 AM
From: GROUND ZERO™	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

The scientific methodology is very rigid, you cannot deny it... other posters have already commented, so there's no reason for me to repeat their posts... you also say scientific claims can be verified, but so can theological claims... most all governments tell you that murder, robbery, and the like are not lawful, why do you suppose we have these laws in place? Go ahead and commit a crime and see how your whole life changes for the worse... don't confuse childhood storybook religion with genuine and practical theological evidence... GZ