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To: TigerPaw who wrote (325158)	12/3/2002 2:30:21 PM
From: CYBERKEN	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Science creates myth as readily as religion. Look at the global warming fraud and the acid rain scam, as well as all those windmill heads who want to force us to buy oil from Saddam, rather than drill our own in ANWAR...

To: TigerPaw who wrote (325158)	12/3/2002 5:30:05 PM
From: Johannes Pilch	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769670

Science produces nothing-- no valid results, no nothing. Nature and its laws already exist regardless of our ignorance of them. Science is only a way of thinking, a religious faith-based way of thinking about nature that aims to enable flawed humans to become less ignorant of what already exists in nature right under their noses. There is yet more reality than even nature right under their noses, but those who embrace only the truncated thinking of modern science cannot possibly ever descry it. They are hopelessly cut off from knowledge of complete reality. True science is unlimited, being in fact true religion. Unlike modern science, the ultimate aim of true religion is not to observe and exploit nature, though it does indeed observe and exploit nature. Its ultimate aim is to interface with nature such that we might descry what exists beyond nature. That to me is a far more worthy goal than being able to measure the heat of the sun and count the number of planets. It is even more worthy than lengthening earthly life because despite science, death is an inexorable reality taking us beyond nature whether we wish to go there or not. All allegedly great scientists are dead or as good as dead. All humans for whom science is the path to truth are dead or as good as dead. Only true religion gives life. It helps us learn of and prepare for where we must certainly go however much science feebly struggles in nature to the contrary. True religion is at the apex of all knowledge.