To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (325504 ) 12/3/2002 11:22:52 PM From: Johannes Pilch Respond to of 769670 I've told you several time what it would take and you continue to dance... Well, you've never told me what it would take. I have been really listening closely for that and have not yet heard it. When pressed for this information what you have said is that you aren't interested in God because you don't believe He exists. Well then I ain't interested in talking to rocks. But if you actually have an idea of what it would take to believe in God, I am all ears. (I gotta read it tomorra though, because I am DANG sleepy ni). This is very important to understanding my God. You must work very hard to describe exactly what it will take for you to believe. If you can do this, then you will see the thing with breathtaking clarity and I won't have to muddle it up with a whole bunch of words that don't even begin to describe the truth.BTW, are all the animals, insects, etc going into the hereafter with you???? If there is a god, I think they should, don't you? They are god's creation, are they not???? Not all of God's creation will be freed. The natural world is an aquariun of sorts. You were meant to swim like a certain fish. You ain't been swimming right Shep. So your behind is gonna be tossed out of the dang tank. Maybe other critters will be chosen. Can't rightly say who and what will be there. I only know I will be.Oh, and then there's the poor homosexuals, they of course can't go.... Well, as I said, I can't really say who is gonna be there. I know of a certainty that homosexiality is a gross corruption of the moral order and that all who embrace such corruptions will indeed be tossed from the tank. But heck, some of us are weak. God will kick no man when he is down. So who is to say a sodomite who longs to reject his sin cannot turn toward God, be forgiven and given strength to turn from corruption? I sho won't say that, else there is no forgiveness for anyone.