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To: paul_philp who wrote (60006)	12/5/2002 12:45:51 PM
From: FaultLine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 281500

We can't talk about the world's reactions to US actions? Isn't how the world views America central to FADG? I don't understand. Thank you, Paul, for your comments. "how the world views America" is central and is just fine with me but let's try to emphasize 'world'. This particular discussion, however, began with Lindy Bill's 'Analysis of the Extreme Left in the US'-type post which I do think is an 'iffy' proposition for this forum. I saw it as a discussion of splinter-group thinking in the US and not particularly useful -- sort of like discussing the militia movement, interesting perhaps, but with little to do with American Foreign policy. And, if you are asking me to declare hard and fast rules about this and that and the other, well, it's very difficult, so I try not</i> to do it and instead I usually try to simply steer the discussion in a more local and dynamic manner by employing occasional comments and PM's. Some disagree with my calls, but I do clarify or change my them from time to time when I get nice letters. <g>. From Day One this has been a very fuzzy decision environment but I'm comfortable with it -- and besides, there are plenty of other familiar places for certain ideas to be explored, so it is not as if we are going to 'miss' anything. --fl

To: paul_philp who wrote (60006)	12/5/2002 2:58:07 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

We can't talk about the world's reactions to US actions? Isn't how the world views America central to FADG? I don't understand. I think two things are getting mixed up here. I, for one, agree with you that discussions of the rising tide of anti-Americanism around the globe are essential parts of our conversations here. But that's one thing. The other is to accuse the "loyal opposition" in American politics of anti-Americanism because they are critical of policies of the Bush administration. That's what I'm responding to. I've been trying to think of a parallel thing and I just realized the last post I sent Bill had the ingredients, I just didn't work it out. You may recall that Jerry Fallwell and, I think, Pat Robertson said, after 9-11, that the attack was retribution from god for gays and lesbians, or some such. If I then said, well we now know where the right stands in this country, that would be the same thing. And then analyzed the political right in this country as if that gave us its fundamentals.