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Politics : Impeach George W. Bush -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Mighty_Mezz who wrote (17660)12/7/2002 1:28:39 PM
From: MSI  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 93284
 
Thanks MM, to combat the Bush Police State -- it looks like those in public who feel liable to unconstitutional arrest, should get to know an investigative reporter with the news desk of the local media. By prearrangement if the call comes in sounding like you're calling a lawyer it's a police-state incident in progress. Still acting as if you're talking to a lawyer, state the incident and location, and news reporters can videotape their arrival at the police station, and let everyone involved know about it.

Alternatively, several lawyers in town should make such arrangements with news people, so if they get such a call, they can notify news crews to show up at the same time.

After approximately an hour of interrogation, Maginnis was allowed to make a telephone call. Rather than contacting a lawyer, he called the Denver Post and asked for the news desk. This was immediately overheard by the desk sergeant, who hung up the phone and placed Maginnis in a holding cell

Of course, the implications in this story are much larger, since "Agent Willse" charged that Maginnis was a terrorist, immediately jeopardizing his ability to talk to anyone. At that point, the Bush Terrorist legislation allowed him to refuse Maginnis any contact with anyone. Theoretically, he could have been secretly removed, tried, convicted and even executed, without anyone knowing where he was, and without any evidence presented to him in open court.

I.e., he could have been "disappeared", as they said in Stalin's time.



To: Mighty_Mezz who wrote (17660)12/7/2002 2:01:34 PM
From: MSI  Respond to of 93284
 
Upcoming technology can make Soviet-style police actions more difficult, by Rodney King-type broadcasts by citizens over the web so the authorities can't deny the incidents (call it "Little Brother" <g>)

- The cellphones with cameras, broadcasting over the web

- 802.11 wireless handhelds to connect camcorders to live web broadcast. There are handhelds coming to market that have both w'less and USB.

Besides entertainment use, a few hundred people in each city using these devices gives at least a chance to capture malfeasance in the streets, on themselves or their neighbors.

Someone should host such anti-Police State Reconnaisance links to broadcast and capture, maybe 2600.com

Feds in all agencies need better training and understanding of the law, and what it means to be an American. And who it is they work for. They may take a bullet for the vice-prez, but the reason for doing that is to preserve someone who works for the American people, not the other way around.

Totalitarian legislation will likely lead to even greater abuses. The Nixon "enemies list" was child's play compared to what they can do, if so inclined, this time with judicial cover.