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To: LindyBill who wrote (60434)	12/7/2002 3:34:34 PM
From: Rascal	Respond to of 281500

It's 2002. Maybe there is a third way.

To: LindyBill who wrote (60434)	12/7/2002 3:43:40 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Ah, I gather whatever I say never meets your criteria, Bill. Let me show you. You observed that I did not wish to discuss Lee Harris' lack of serious reading in Marx and the surrounding literature. I said that was not so and offered several points that suggested he had not done his homework. You now say that's not the point of the article. I completely agree. The point of the article is to condemn something called "the left" as being against America "root and branch" and using old Cold War rhetoric to staple something together. I addressed that argument in my first post. My argument is (1) if he means everyone to the left of GWB, he failed to make the connection; (2) if he means something he calls, at one point in the piece, "the Marxist left" then he's still bogged down in the Cold War. Not helpful in the current circumstances at all. The concept of the left remains deliberately vague in all these pieces, whether it comes from Lee Harris, the NRO, the Weekly Standard, Krauthammer, Kelly, or whomsoever, because they don't wish to get pinned down. They think they can offer some caricature and then by invoking the "left", some readers will come to believe they are actually talking about Ted Kennedy. That's why I keep saying, give me a break. Sorry to be so tough on you on this one but it's serious business to me. As for your last bit about almost everything on the left goes back to Marx, there you go again as someone else once said. Make your case. What thoughts of what person who is on the left are drawn from Marx? And in what ways are the thoughts of that person indicative of political thought on the left.