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To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (326674)	12/7/2002 6:30:10 PM
From: Ish	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769670

<<The newly fertilized cell cannot continue to grow by itself, it needs some "machinery" to support its growth, as JP chose to put it.>> An egg needs a chicken to produce it. Then it becomes a chicken. A bacteria can feed on a foreign body and then reproduce it's self. A virus can't reproduce on it's own and infects a cell that splits in order to replicate.

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (326674)	12/8/2002 1:29:53 AM
From: Johannes Pilch	Respond to of 769670

I'm using Pilch's conditions to describe life.... And Pilch is just repeating what most researchers think about the matter. I happen to agree with it because it actually makes sense and is proven empirically. The newly fertilized cell cannot grow by itself as you say. But of course that never was a criterion for determining life. Cells do not need "machinery" to support growth, the need "machinery" to cause the growth and they possess the machinery in their own natures. Viruses do not. They must hijack the machinery of already living cells (which do have the replicating machinery). That is why most researchers do not think viruses are alive. Now I done told you the facts in as simple a terms as I can. And yet you still intent on being ignorant. No wonder you a dang atheist. The dang truth be staring you right in the face, and you just keep working hard to believe something else. Dass some dumb mess, maan.