To: Dayuhan who wrote (60840 ) 12/10/2002 11:02:21 AM From: Neocon Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 You ignore major points:The only major question, then, was one of population, that is, rules governing immigration and efforts to buy out Arabs. These were the peaceful means that Zionists envisioned to secure a Jewish State. All the Arabs had to do was to fight politically and diplomatically against Jewish advantages, and to refuse to sell, or to make a counter effort to buy out Jews. After all, a lot of refugees were not deeply committed to Israel, and might gladly have emigrated elsewhere if they had the means.... ...It took Lawrence of Arabia to make the Arabs fight the Ottomans. There was no anti- colonialist movement among Arabs against the Mandatory authority, which, after all, created the rules under which Jews immigrated, and where a foreign power administering "their" territory. Why pick on the Jews, especially beginning at a time when they fell far short of their goal of attaining a majority, and when the British foreign office was more prone to support the Arab point of view than that of Jews? Remember, the British limited Jewish immigration out of Nazi Europe, and refused to allow the relocation of many displaced persons of Jewish descent to Palestine, at the behest of the Arab powers. Regardless of your commissions, the British were primarily interested in their relations with the Arab powers, and the uninterrupted exploration for oil, not rioting. But it doesn't matter, the fact is that pressure to limit Jewish immigration was working, and the resort to deadly violence was unnecessary. Even after the Partition, Israel accepted it, and the Arabs rejected it, although it favored their interests, and made Israel practically indefensible, in favor of open warfare. I do not have detailed information about the economic history of Palestine at my fingertips. But the complaints of some number of former tenant farmers does not explain the massive effort of the Arab world to demonize Israel and to drive the Jews into the sea. You are taking the case of skinheads as an analogy, and I am talking about something more like a decision of the European powers to throw in with Hitler to hunt down Jews. To find it credible that the Arab powers cared about some displaced farmers, one would have to suppose that they cared more for people in Palestine than for their own populations, who generally lived under oppressive conditions.........