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To: stockman_scott who wrote (60959)	12/10/2002 6:36:22 PM
From: KLP	Respond to of 281500

Can't wait till we see what all the Administration backseat drivers (also known as columnists, spinmeisters, and all sorts of other things) say about Iraq and the North Korean Scuds....can you?

To: stockman_scott who wrote (60959)	12/10/2002 7:56:25 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

It's interesting to see Tom Friedman squirm in this column. He basically supports Bush's efforts, but he's all conflicted because Bush is a Republican, so he has to tell him to lose Karl Rove and become a Democrat for the duration. Most of his suggestions are a recipe for losing focus and squandering the mandate. I don't pretend to know what Bush should do. But I can tell that these suggestions are just plain silly.

To: stockman_scott who wrote (60959)	12/10/2002 8:34:22 PM
From: Sig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Scott: Re Thomas Friedmans article. I dont consider that a condemnation of US / Bush actions, but more a discussion of related problems. The 911 attack was the final straw from a long string of terrorist events. Calling for a new course of action determined by government advisors and including President Bush. To implement the action and initially get on course with public support and present a precisely clear single minded, do or die program to the public with some chance that it would distract the Press from their never ending debates over politics and who would govern which State or coverage of murder trials required the that the President define and state the goal. ( Its them or us) To accomplish any worthwhile goal requires serious dedication , as well -expressed in books by Lance Armtrong and Bruce Jenner. If one can clearly state a worthy goal, one can get an amazing amount of support for it, and Mr Bush certainly did - from countries with similar goals or problems in the UN, from Congressmen, and even from Arab countries allowing use of their land, airfields or airspace. All else is secondary to the main goal , and consideration and resolution of problems discussed by Thomas F are hopefully being worked on. Our country is still hamstrung quite a bit by morals and ethics ( we dont torture, starve, beat, or make slaves of the enemy soldiers). It is only as a very last resort that we will bomb a building labeled a hospital even if it contains only a nuclear laboratory and no patients. I hope a few reporters (those who stood on the balcony of a hotel in downtown Bagdad to watch the action as precise missile strikes from a variety of Nations took out nearby targeted sites ) -are still around to counter the presentation of others claiming the US has an "inhuman" warfareing nature. . Sig