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To: tejek who wrote (155962)	12/11/2002 12:17:56 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578539

OBL is the worst threat to western civilization since Hitler. There is no basis for this statement. It is highly unlikely, in my view, that Bin Laden has significant power at this point, IF he is even alive. The liberals who are politicizing this (that would include YOU) are either ignoring or ignorant OF the source of Al Queda's power -- its cellular structure. This fact makes Al Queda difficult to deal with, but also minimizes the importance of any one individual. Bin Laden is NOT important, other than as a symbolic measure. For this reason, a rational look at the problem leads to the conclusion that more concentrated powers such as Iraq and Iran are more critical threats. We can't do much about Al Queda. We can stop Iraq in its tracks. If we don't, and we do simply what Clinton did, we'll end up with another NK on our hands. It is amazing to me that liberals are unable to think this through for themselves. No one knew back in '98 just how dangerous bin Laden was. Furthermore, Clinton did not have the support to take him out WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN? EVERYONE, even CLINTON, BY HIS OWN ADMISSION knew what a threat Bin Laden was.

To: tejek who wrote (155962)	12/11/2002 12:20:31 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1578539

*Clinton did not have the support to take him out* This is perhaps the most telling statement. You're right. It was incumbent on him, as president, to make the RIGHT decision regardless of whether there was "support". It is NOT the president's job to take a poll before he defends the country. This is precisely why Clinton's presidency was such a failure. A strong leader, such as the current president, makes the decision based on what is right, NOT based on how much support there is. It is his most important function to build support for whatever the agenda happens to be. You, unknowingly, have defined with precision the reason for Clinton's failure, and the element which may well escalate Bush's administration to greatness.

To: tejek who wrote (155962)	12/11/2002 2:23:41 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1578539

That just ain't good enough. OBL is the worst threat to western civilization since Hitler. Therefore, your mealy mouth response to my post in an effort to cover up the shortcomings of the current administration is inappropriate and ridiculous. The goal is to get him, and not simply to try and get him. Trying just ain't good enough. OBL is dangerous but the movement is dangerous even without him. And a smart determined person with the right contacts can elude pursuit for decades. You set the bar to high and then complain that we don't jump over it. There is a good chance that a Gore, or Clinton, or Bush Sr, or Reagan, or Carter administration might not have gotten OBL. Carter might not have even made a serious effort. Clinton had a chance and didn't take it. If we get lucky we will get him. If not we just get as many Al-Qaida as we can. No one knew back in '98 just how dangerous bin Laden was. By the end of 98 he had been connected to the first world trade center attack, attacks on our soldiers in Somalia, an unsuccessful assassination attempt against Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, bombing in Riyadh which killed Americans, the truck bombing of U.S. compound in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 U.S. servicemen, and the bombing of U.S. embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, killing 224. By the time Clinton left office he had also been connected with planned bombings in Los Angeles, the suicide bombing of USS Cole in Yemen which killed 17 US sailors. Tim