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To: epsteinbd who wrote (61142)	12/11/2002 6:38:09 PM
From: kumar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

scuds...<phantom vessel>... the ship was Cambodian. may have been stateless at that point in time (I'm not learned in maritime law in this aspect), but investigation showed it to be a cambodian ship.

To: epsteinbd who wrote (61142)	12/11/2002 6:59:04 PM
From: LindyBill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

The only one with the big need is Iraq. Must have been on there way to Saddam.

To: epsteinbd who wrote (61142)	12/11/2002 8:14:38 PM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 281500

Hi epsteinbd; Re: "Now let's examine to whom it could be shipped: Egypt already has its load of missiles. Libya has no use for such short range missiles. Irak, via Jordan: I'd doubt the Jordanians would ok this at this time. Lebanon ? Too visible, and no infrastructure for concealing their existence." Your analysis is quaintly incompatible with the actual distribution of SCUDs. Egypt, Libya, Seria, Yemen, the UAE, and Iran already have them. They are legitimate conventional weapons, (not "mass destruction" or "nuclear proliferation" ), and do not require concealment. Known SCUD deployments: fas.org The Russian SS-lc Mod 1, also called the SCUD B. has been exported to more countries than any other type of guided ballistic missile and has proven to be a versatile and adaptable weapon. For example, the Iraqi SCUDs used during the Persian Gulf War had been modified to double their range. North Korea has produced its own version of the SCUD B. as well as the SCUD C, an extended-range version of the SCUD B. Although the SCUD was originally designed as a tactical battlefield support weapon, many countries view it and other SRBM systems as strategic weapons to be used against urban areas. The Iraqis used extended- range SCUDs as strategic weapons during both the Iran-Iraq War and the Persian Gulf War. In the future, other countries could modify SCUDs to significantly improve their accuracy and use them against high-value military targets as well as cities. fas.org The wide ownership, as well as the US letting the shipment go on to Yemen, illustrates how silly the US attitude towards Iraqi ownership of them is. -- Carl P.S. My comment on the discovery looks psychic, given that the missiles were shipped on to the Yemenis despite all the frantic publicity: Bilow, December 10, 2002 As far as I know, there's nothing that makes it illegal for North Korea to sell Scud missiles to Yemen. Neither country is under UN arms trade sanctions of any sort, as far as I know. #reply-18322752 The tendency of the press is to make big mountains out of molehills.