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To: Scott Bergquist who wrote (26033)	12/12/2002 7:14:38 AM
From: TobagoJack	Respond to of 74559

Hello Scott, <<What can the West offer back? Anything tangible? What do you see in your travels?>> (a) <<The Chinese wanted gold and silver>> ;0) (b) German and Japanese machine tools to make things with (c) Russian weapons to copy (d) Stocks and bonds to earn passive income (e) Real estate of all kinds (f) Mining companies and forests to use (g) Fishing rights and food (h) American McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken (i) American Coca Cola and Chrysler Jeeps (j) US, UK, CAN, AUS educations (k) Passports (l) Oil and gas fields (m) Porsche (just walked through the new Beijing dealership in Chang An Club building) (n) Patek platinum watches as in anything that qualifies as the best as defined by CB;0) ... Chugs, Jay

To: Scott Bergquist who wrote (26033)	12/12/2002 8:35:29 AM
From: LLCF	Respond to of 74559

< recall that the first 19th century trader-Westerners that gained an audience with the emperor of China tried to impress the imperial court with an array of fanciful clocks, with cunning mechanisms. "All this to know "What time is it?" I just need to look at the sun, and I know!!"> ROFLMAO!!! Intellectualism vs symbols & metaphor, mechanism vs nature, Buddhism vs Christianity: "I want to know the heart of god... the rest is just details" -Einstein DAK