To: FaultLine who wrote (61543 ) 12/16/2002 2:28:00 PM From: MSI Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500 Hi FL, But -- the unexamined fundamentals of FP are all-important - improving civilization, of which reducing mortality is a primary element. What gets immediately and permanently lost in the frenzied growth of Empire, as declared by Henry K, and Zbignew B. as spokesmen for the self-involved geopolitical/geomilitary complex, is that the goal of evolving civilization should rightfully include reduction of mortality. Ever since the Cold Warrior's breezy "megadeath" calculations we've forgotten that perspective. If the true enemy is mortality, then the greater civilization from ZB's "world cooperative of democratic nations" should increase that mortality, or what's the point? Unless the conspiracy theorists be taken seriously, that these militarists have the hidden agenda of population reduction for their disfavored. Being "free" makes little sense if we kill or are killed in massive numbers, don't you think? We have to face some unpleasant issues today, as a result of Bill Joy's "The Future Doesn't Need Us" (hypertech enables fewer individuals to wipe out greater numbers of millions), and Bush's belligerent policies apparently designed to ensure maximum worldwide conflict. We need to recognize the consequences of preemptive massive violence playing into the hands of "undeterrables", for no reason other than, apparently, cementing absolute domestic political control. Rumsfeld's rightly-termed "undeterrables" can get hold of new plagues, radiologics and other weapons to kill in the millions. The idiocy of encouraging them by preemptively threatening all nations with megadeaths from U.S.-made WMDs is not a topic to be avoided, IMO.