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To: mishedlo who wrote (209521)12/13/2002 3:54:50 PM
From: yard_man  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
HD, S, COST, LOW, TGT ... get out the darts <g>



To: mishedlo who wrote (209521)12/13/2002 4:29:50 PM
From: cfimx  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
When these companies issued the converts, they thought their stocks would be going to da moon. So they could then convert this debt into equity and be rid of the interest payments. The problem now is that the stocks are down with no chance to convert the debt. These folks are now stuck paying the interest, and soon the principal, which is the big problem. Some of the bonds will be coming due soon and the companies never expected they would have to deal with how to pay the principal on these things.



To: mishedlo who wrote (209521)12/13/2002 5:04:41 PM
From: yard_man  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 436258
 
we had number 1 today -- not something that happens often -- selloff in bonds wasn't spectacular, but ...let's see what Monday brings, eh? are you still net short?



To: mishedlo who wrote (209521)12/13/2002 6:09:29 PM
From: marginmike  Respond to of 436258
 
find the weak retailers like sears and the subprime lenders. Also comercial banks that have big mortgage and consumer debt portfolios. I would wait till after sante gooses the market though. Stay away from the big boys. Also a good hedge is resteraunt vs retail. Resteraunts in the right braket (fast food)do well in recessions, as do Casino's