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To: mishedlo who wrote (209565)12/13/2002 6:01:43 PM
From: KeepItSimple  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
The whole point of convertibles is that they cause a death spiral in the company who issues them. The convertible buyers immediately start shorting the stock, often naked, driving down the price and increasing the percentage of the company they get in return, since that percentage is based on the current market cap.

This sort of vulture financing was the death blow to many dot.coms who were deseperate for cash from any source.

A good rule of thumb is that a convertible in a bear market is a kiss of death.

In the best case, the convertible buyers make a ton of money on the short side. In the worst, they get to buy the company for pennies on the dollar.

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OK I am MU
The maturity date hits.
People are not forced to buy MU at $45.

WTF does this mean to MU?
MU has debt that is due and needs to refinance?
Needs to sell more convertables but now share price is 15 instead of 45?
How much did MU lose on this deal?



To: mishedlo who wrote (209565)12/13/2002 6:07:09 PM
From: ild  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 436258
 
MU has to come up with cash. MU didn't lose anything. In fact MU paid low interest on the bond because it was "convertible". MU thought that it would convert the debt into stock (dilute fuc*ing shareholders) and it would not have to return the cash. It spent the cash on stock buyback so directors could sell options with good profit. Now the cash has to be returned. The time has changed. Raising cash is much harder.