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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (329056)	12/14/2002 3:39:26 PM
From: ManyMoose	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

There was a front page article on Worth Magazine about the 25 most generous young Americans, and it profiled all these 30-something billionaires handing out money to their private foundations. It made me sick. They are not generous; they are simply disposing of money that they can't possibly use on themselves. Jesus didn't preach poverty, but he showed that the Widow who put her last mite into the pot for others was more generous than all these billionaires put together. I thought Worth was an investment magazine. It's not. It's a slick vehicle for narcissists to look at advertisements for their next Rolex Oyster and see how their competition in conspicuous consumption is doing. My subscription will run out.

To: Johannes Pilch who wrote (329056)	12/15/2002 3:34:27 AM
From: Andy Thomas	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

--There ain't no "next life" pal. I'm alive right dang now. Alls that's gonna happen is my dead and dying body is gonna croak. I'm gonna just keep own ticking right along - forvever. If you ain't alive, really alive, then you are dead and never have lived. Dead fokes are gonna keep being dead just like they are now - but in hell. -- you can't discount reincarnation with 100% certainty... that's why they call what you have, 'faith.' more than anything, 'hell' is really an 'emptiness' whilst 'heaven' is a 'fullness'... different strokes for different folks... i don't know for sure but i suspect that some christians 'get off' on the thought of those who argue with them during this life suffering eternal burning... well, i for one don't like jesus, or any king - of the universe or whatever - for that matter... i can accept that nothing but flames await me forever... and i'm sure that tickles the likes of you and prolife, et al... it seems odd to me though that this omnipotent fellow gives a rat's ass about anyone or what they think or do for that matter... and the new testament looks more like a vehicle for social control than anything else... indeed... it seems odd that someone can be punished eternally for a life they lived without ever having really seen or known the facts of the universe... it all looks like conjecture more than anything... and then the likes of you could point to the 'inborn conscience' of each and every human being who ever lived (or will live)... but i find that it is a very easy thing to destroy such a thing a conscience... a simple obliteration of trust in a personal relationship will do... but what's the point of arguing with the likes of you... i was at least kind of like that once... 'knowing' that you have found favor with 'the bees knees' and that your 'earthly enemies' are going to burn forever... well that's powerful, humanly gratifying stuff.... and who would i or anyone else be to tell you that you might be mistaken?... or that god might change 'his' mind about things now and then... in the end i'm simply glad that the judgement may be left to the 'christ' and not to the likes of yourself or 'prolife'... because 'lord knows' i have no conscious recollection of ever having asked for this thing called 'life'... and if you think in every case it is a gift then i would submit that you're sadly mistaken...