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To: PROLIFE who wrote (329123)12/15/2002 12:35:49 AM
From: ManyMoose  Respond to of 769667
 
It's OK to be offensive to Christians, but not to other religions. Nonbelievers always quote scripture without understanding it. Their opinions are not worth a second thought.



To: PROLIFE who wrote (329123)12/16/2002 1:25:24 PM
From: Steve Dietrich  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769667
 
<<I notice you have not shown me the proof yet on the eye of the needle yet>>

Well here's some evidence:

Jerome Biblical Commentary, states the following, "the figure of the camel and the eye of the needle means exactly what is said; it does not refer to a small gate of Jerusalem."

As Hugh Nibley puts it in his own inimitable way, this gate idea was "invented by an obliging nineteenth-century minister for the comfort of his well-heeled congregation." See CWHN 9:168. This is one of those notions Nibley calls a "para-scripture": a tale that is widely but wrongly circulated among the Saints as scriptural.


I've read several times that the Jerusalem Gate story is an old wives' tale with no basis in fact.

I'm sure there's more on this, including in The Interpreter's Bible which says the same thing about that passage.

<<I really love it when non believers quote scripture telling Christians how they need to be living..>>

And i'm amazed a serious believer like you is repeating these biblical old wives' tales.

<<I see Johannes dealt with all the other pick and choose scriptures you chose...>>

I think you and Johannes would concede that there are many substantial strains of Christianity and they don't all interpret the Bible the same way you do.

<<Let's say I come on here, and spend a good deal of energy running down not you, but your family. Call you dad a bunch of names, tell him he is a worthless joke, tell your kids they are dead meat, ....well, you get my point.>>

I don't think this is fair at all. I've only questioned the reality of something you take on faith.

<<When you and other non believers, and anti-Christs, and atheists and so forth come here doing basically the same>>

This is the President Bush thread, not the "Let's Love Jesus and no non-Christians allowed" thread.

Steve