To: Thomas M. who wrote (2631 ) 12/16/2002 7:53:26 PM From: Brumar89 Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3959 You certainly have a vivid imagination. Thanks for falling into my double trap. -g- Well, let's examine this "trap". You said:You are a racist for rejecting Farrakhan, That statement simply shows how weird you are. Farrakhan is a racist crackpot and everybody knows it. I'm not surprised that you accept his message, however, as you're a crackpot yourself. The other source I described as biased was the Sudan Foundation and I will stand by that. Because the Sudan Foundation quotes a State Dept publication as criticizing the SPLA rebels conscription in no way constitutes evidence that slavery doesn't exist there. Indeed the State Department says very clearly that slavery does continue to exist in the Sudan. Here's a excerpt from the State Department's Country Reports on Human Rights Practices - 2001:state.gov >>>>>c. Prohibition of Forced or Compulsory Labor The Constitution prohibits forced or compulsory labor; however, slavery persists, particularly affecting Dinka women and children from northern Bahr al Ghazal. The taking of slaves, particularly in the war zones, and their transport to parts of central and northern Sudan continued. There have been frequent and credible reports that militia raiders, supported by government troops, took women and children as slaves during raids in Bahr El Ghazal State and the Upper Nile (see Sections 1.a. and 1.c.). The Government did not take any action to halt these practices or to punish the perpetrators and continued to support some tribal militias with horses, weapons, and ammunition. The majority of the victims were abducted in violent raids on settlements carried out by government-affiliated militias accompanying and guarding troop trains to the southern garrison town of Wau. During the raids, the militias, which frequently are not paid by the Government for their services, exact their own remuneration from the villages. Civilians often were killed, and villages were destroyed. Following the raids, there were credible reports of practices such as the sale and purchase of children, some in alleged slave markets, and the rape of women. Abductees frequently are forced to herd cattle, work in the fields, fetch water, dig wells, and do housework. Abductees are subjected to torture and rape, and at times, are killed. These practices all have a pronounced racial aspect, as the victims are exclusively black southerners and members of indigenous tribes of the Nuba Mountains. The Government continued to deny that slavery and forced labor exist, but acknowledges that abductions occur. The Government also denies involvement or complicity in slavery, and states that hostage taking often accompanies tribal warfare, particularly in war zones not under government control. However, in 1998 the Government formed the Committee to Eliminate the Abduction of Women and Children (CEAWC) and pledged to end the practice of hostage-taking. Despite the creation of CEAWC, reports of abductions and slavery continued during the year. During the year, the Government refused to approve flight clearances for the transfers of the abductees, which has prevented additional reunifications, and the Government did not record the identity of the abductors or forced labor owners and chose not to prosecute them. The law prohibits forced and bonded labor by children; however, the Government does not enforce it effectively. There continued to be credible reports that government or government-associated forces took children as slaves. <<<<< Well, that was certainly a pathetic "trap" you sprang on me. But that's what we've come to expect from you. Feel free to spring more "traps" like that. :>)