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To: KLP who wrote (620)	12/17/2002 10:57:25 AM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

we as a Nation, are also grieving the "loss of our innocence" Yes I know that. It is perfectly clear. Try to understand, though, that there was no "innocence" to speak of. You are referring to the ignorance about world affairs (even re US government), a sense of invulnerability ("We are far away from all conflicts.") and disinterest about the world in general. A sort of happy feeling of "We are all so fine. And nothing else matters." This is not an insult or compliment, just an observation. Most Americans were not interested in the rest of the world before 9/11. Most did not care about their own state's foreign affairs. George W. Bush apparently set foot outside the US once before his presidency, although he had ample means and opportunities, and that was a single visit to Mexico. ... and the belief that so many Amerians have~~We have helped so many millions of people throughout the world, but some we thought to be friends are seemingly only willing to take our "treasure" and not stand by America's side in times of peril" Instead of treating this situation as ingraciousness, I suggest you consider the solidarity from all over Europe after 9/11, and how it changed over the months. Countries are not faithful dogs, you know. They do not keep licking your fingers in affection after you mistreat them a couple of times, no matter how many times you fed them on time. Truth is Bush alienated America's long-term allies with his cowboy attitude and disregard for others' concerns. This subject has been beaten to death around here so I will not go into again, but I would like to emphasize that it is a little more complicated than "We helped them but now they don't help us, so that means they just took our riches."