To: Randall E Westberg who wrote (3269 ) 12/20/2002 11:32:21 PM From: Dan B. Respond to of 3347 By your words it was logical for me to imagine that you would have offered the salesman a negative opinion. You didn't say you had- and now you expressly say you did not- so I'll accept that as truth. As for my statement concerning your bias, I feel I fairly represented your own words, and so again I take you at your word and find you to be highly biased. RB is only a conduit, a messenger. Don't shoot it. To be more clear, what I referenced in my post was a message board for pocket PC's where-in a fellow whom I believe had gotten into Motorola's "T-Mobile" beta testing program had posted his thoughts on voice dialing from Fonix. I took him at his word too, and judged that doing so was a reasonable bet. Don't kill the messenger. I've now seen that Fonix has put his words on their site. Here were his words: ""I have several applications on my Pocket PC Phone Edition, but the one I use most often in the course of a day is VoiceDial from Fonix," said James Schmitz, a beta application tester for VoiceDial. "I have over 200 contacts in my address book, and everyday I am amazed at how accurately VoiceDial recognizes the name of the person I want to call or a specific phone number not in my address book…even without doing any voice training! It's especially useful when I'm driving (with a headset of course) as I don't need to take my eyes off the road. Big thumbs up for this killer app!""odin.fonix.com If you'd received the latest edition of Pocket Watch newsletter from Microsoft, you see that Microsoft links to the page for Pocket PC voice dialing on the Fonix site, where the quote above appears. Fonix put the Microsoft newsletter up on its site too, and you can subscribe to the newsletter through MSFT there if you like:odin.fonix.com RE: "The only thing that Fonix has done in a very big way is to financially cost and ethically disappoint, so very many people in such a big way. The only thing Fonix has successfully sold since 1996, when I first bought some company shares...are company shares. At the first shareholder meeting I went to in 1996 the company officers justified their salaries based upon the stock performance. This company sells stock ...not technology." The viability of products you found in the store remains an unknown quantity, despite your anecdotal evidence, IMO(more inventory may have been put on the shelf while you weren't looking). I've seen Voice Director, for instance, both highly praised and panned, I only know I truly like the concept. These products are but a few of the many employing Fonix which are either still infants in the marketplace, or yet to be released. Here's one I think is looking great: "So how does CoPilot do this? TravRoute has integrated powerful "Text-to-Speech" voice technology from Fonix®. With a sound bank that takes up only 1-2 MB of storage space, Pocket CoPilot can read almost any street name that CoPilot takes you down"travroute.co.uk CoPilot products are possibly the most highly reviewed GPS solutions I've seen. They have just released one for Dell's new Axim Product. I think it more than reasonable for me to say that when you've sold a licensing agreement to Microsoft to have your ASR/TTS technology put into their developer platform for XBOX, you've sold something indeed. The notion that I have either a moral problem or am being paid to write here is quite limiting for me. If you know damn well that you are an ordinary unconnected investor who lost much money on paper in Fonix, then please realize that I am in fact exactly that, too, and certainly am not immoral for posting truths about Fonix's efforts, which are obviously coming to some level of fruition. I realize the opener of this thread which you've quoted, indicates that Fonix intended to sell product way back when. I realize that flies in the face of what happened as attempts to sell product in a significant way have mostly been rebuffed over the years. I realize also, however, that this is true of all the many competitors Fonix has. I realize times are changing for them all, at least, In My HONEST Opinion. Was it this year or last that Fonix's Dr. Obertueffer recieved a perhaps rather major award(in this realm) from the speech industry itself, for his highly respected efforts? Fonix hasn't "successfully sold" anything but shares, you say. I say that statement is literally untrue, but since the 1.8 million in revenues they've done in the first 9 months are indeed sparse(though representing a 350% increase), I'll say a reasonable definition of "success" allows me to forgive you for what indeed otherwise IS a literal untruth. Dan B