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To: Sultan who wrote (62265)	12/18/2002 4:21:21 PM
From: frankw1900	Respond to of 281500

Sultan, I don't think Asani's article is OT at all. His analysis of the history and reasons for "exclusivist" Islamist movements corresponds quite well with my (non-Muslim) understanding. Despite many ill founded statements about a "clash of civilizations" what we are looking at is an archaic ideology clashing with both 'Western' and Muslim modernity. In essence this is not different from the huge ideological struggles that gave the 20th century WW2 and the Cold War. The fundamentalist or exclusivist movement coming from Muslim countries right now is vastly supported by oil money mostly coming from Saudi Arabia. My question is how do the majority of Muslims who are pluralist in their views compete with the huge funding which the Wahabbists provide their missionaries, not just to preach but to buy out mosques and whole educational systems? For instance, it's alleged by the likes of Daniel Pipes and not contradicted by those in a position to know, that most of the mosques in N America and Europe have been taken over by Wahabbists, who are not only well funded, but viciously aggressive. So, how do Muslims who are modern in their views compete with this takeover of their faith?

To: Sultan who wrote (62265)	12/18/2002 5:51:03 PM
From: William B. Kohn	Respond to of 281500

As I posted to you in a PM, I think the link to Asani is very worthwhile. All too often we only hear about the face of Islam from the radical point of view. It is important to know that their are voices expressing the theme Mr. Asani expresses so well. I only hope his voice is heard in Egypt and Syria (among some) rather than only in the west. His voice and voices like his are crucial should there be any chance for co-existence between the land of Allah and the land of Dallah ($$). bill