To: epicure who wrote (5622 ) 12/19/2002 11:25:18 PM From: Mephisto Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 15516 "America is the greatest of opportunities and the worst of influences." Good article. George Santayana observation is worth thinking about. Whether you agree or disagree with Mr. Santayana will depend, I believe, on your experiences. For instance, when I put an image on a piece of paper what I express is what I see and feel at that time. If the light changes or if there is a sudden shift in my point of view, the image will reflect those changes. A person's notion of patriotism may be similar. Last night I watched a segment on Sixty Minutes 2 about the Vietnam war. I recall that one of the US soldiers said that patriotism was not so much about country or waving the flag. What was important was the guy who was next to you on the battlefield because you needed each other for support and perhaps survival or that is how I interpreted his comment. You can view part of the story at the CBS site. The particular quote I mentioned above is not included in the commentary. Baptism Of Fire Sixty Minutes 11 E-mail This Story Printable Version December 18, 2002cbsnews.com (CBS) Morley Safer goes back to a 1965 CBS Evening News broadcast and revisits a group of American soldiers who in 1965 were facing the reality of war for the first time - in Vietnam The following are excerpts: "In October, 1965, the U.S. First Air Cavalry division had just arrived in Vietnam and was preparing for its first airmobile assault, an operation called "Shiny Bayonet." ……………………………………………………………………………………………… "Everybody was excited about going," he remembers. "All this training, all this hard work - everybody and anybody that could make an excuse for being out there was going to go." A Medivac helicopter was on its way, but by the time it arrived, Wright was dead. "It had a very, very sobering effect on a lot of us young guys," Randol says. Within 24 hours, they had become veterans. And at the end of the week, he was a survivor."cbsnews.com