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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (331815)12/20/2002 4:12:11 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
Don't forget the WAR...and LOSS of CIVIL LIBERTIES....
just icing on the cake
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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (331815)12/20/2002 4:12:58 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
White House to Propose System for Wide Monitoring of Internet
By John Markoff and John Schwartz
New York Times

Friday, 20 December, 2002

he Bush administration is planning to propose requiring Internet service providers to help build a
centralized system to enable broad monitoring of the Internet and, potentially, surveillance of its users.

The proposal is part of a final version of a report, "The National Strategy to Secure Cyberspace," set for
release early next year, according to several people who have been briefed on the report. It is a component
of the effort to increase national security after the Sept. 11 attacks.

The President's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board is preparing the report, and it is intended to
create public and private cooperation to regulate and defend the national computer networks, not only from
everyday hazards like viruses but also from terrorist attack. Ultimately the report is intended to provide an
Internet strategy for the new Department of Homeland Security.

Such a proposal, which would be subject to Congressional and regulatory approval, would be a
technical challenge because the Internet has thousands of independent service providers, from garage
operations to giant corporations like American Online, AT&T, Microsoft and Worldcom.

The report does not detail specific operational requirements, locations for the centralized system or
costs, people who were briefed on the document said.

While the proposal is meant to gauge the overall state of the worldwide network, some officials of
Internet companies who have been briefed on the proposal say they worry that such a system could be
used to cross the indistinct border between broad monitoring and wiretap.

Stewart Baker, a Washington lawyer who represents some of the nation's largest Internet providers,
said, "Internet service providers are concerned about the privacy implications of this as well as liability,"
since providing access to live feeds of network activity could be interpreted as a wiretap or as the "pen
register" and "trap and trace" systems used on phones without a judicial order.

Mr. Baker said the issue would need to be resolved before the proposal could move forward.

Tiffany Olson, the deputy chief of staff for the President's Critical Infrastructure Protection Board, said
yesterday that the proposal, which includes a national network operations center, was still in flux. She said
the proposed methods did not necessarily require gathering data that would allow monitoring at an
individual user level.

But the need for a large-scale operations center is real, Ms. Olson said, because Internet service
providers and security companies and other online companies only have a view of the part of the Internet
that is under their control.

"We don't have anybody that is able to look at the entire picture," she said. "When something is
happening, we don't know it's happening until it's too late."

The government report was first released in draft form in September, and described the monitoring
center, but it suggested it would likely be controlled by industry. The current draft sets the stage for the
government to have a leadership role.

The new proposal is labeled in the report as an "early-warning center" that the board says is required to
offer early detection of Internet-based attacks as well as defense against viruses and worms.

But Internet service providers argue that its data-monitoring functions could be used to track the
activities of individuals using the network.

An official with a major data services company who has been briefed on several aspects of the
government's plans said it was hard to see how such capabilities could be provided to government without
the potential for real-time monitoring, even of individuals.

"Part of monitoring the Internet and doing real-time analysis is to be able to track incidents while they
are occurring," the official said.

The official compared the system to Carnivore, the Internet wiretap system used by the F.B.I., saying:
"Am I analogizing this to Carnivore? Absolutely. But in fact, it's 10 times worse. Carnivore was working on
much smaller feeds and could not scale. This is looking at the whole Internet."

One former federal Internet security official cautioned against drawing conclusions from the information
that is available so far about the Securing Cyberspace report's conclusions.

Michael Vatis, the founding director of the National Critical Infrastructure Protection Center and now the
director of the Institute for Security Technology Studies at Dartmouth, said it was common for proposals to
be cast in the worst possible light before anything is actually known about the technology that will be used
or the legal framework within which it will function.

"You get a firestorm created before anybody knows what, concretely, is being proposed," Mr. Vatis
said.

A technology that is deployed without the proper legal controls "could be used to violate privacy," he
said, and should be considered carefully.

But at the other end of the spectrum of reaction, Mr. Vatis warned, "You end up without technology that
could be very useful to combat terrorism, information warfare or some other harmful act."
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To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (331815)12/20/2002 4:16:10 PM
From: jlallen  Respond to of 769670
 
As I said, cleaning up after the mess you demolibs leave, first Carter, now Clinton, leads to economic pain. But, like Reagan before him...Bush will straighten things out....the war is a difficult complication.....but even that will eventually get managed.

JLA