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To: steve dietrich who wrote (332288)12/21/2002 6:20:04 PM
From: Skywatcher  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
I'm sure this is just the start on the state level...imagine the carnage of civil liberties and privacy when the POINDEXTER/IRANGATE-FELON gets a hold of ALL the information
Going Electronic, Denver Reveals Long-Term Surveillance
By Ford Fessenden with Michael Moss
New York Times

Saturday, 21 December, 2002

DENVER, Dec. 14 -- The Denver police have gathered information on unsuspecting local activists since
the 1950's, secretly storing what they learned on simple index cards in a huge cabinet at police
headquarters.

When the cabinet filled up recently, the police thought they had an easy solution. For $45,000, they
bought a powerful computer program from a company called Orion Scientific Systems. Information on 3,400
people and groups was transferred to software that stores, searches and categorizes the data.

Then the trouble began.

After the police decided to share the fruits of their surveillance with another local department, someone
leaked a printout to an activist for social justice, who made the documents public. The mayor started an
investigation. People lined up to obtain their files. Among those the police spied on were nuns, advocates
for American Indians and church organizations.

To make matters worse, the software called many of the groups "criminal extremists."

"I wasn't threatened in any way by them watching," said Dr. Byron Plumley, who teaches religion and
social values at Regis University in Denver, and discovered that the police had been keeping information
about his activities against war. "But there's something different about having a file. If the police say, `Aha,
he belongs to a criminal extremist organization,' who's going to know that it's the American Friends Service
Committee, and we won the Nobel Peace Prize?"

The incident has highlighted some pitfalls of police intelligence software, which has been hailed widely
as a major tool in the war against terrorism. One of Orion's newest clients, in fact, is the New York City
Police Department, where 200 people in the intelligence division are being trained to use the program,
according to city records and Orion officials.

The New York police, who paid $744,707 for an updated version known as Investigations III+, would not
say just how they planned to use the system. But Eric Zidenberg, an Orion vice president, said, "They have
been a sponge, ready to learn as much as they possibly can."

Beyond the issues of technology, though, the episode has prompted a debate in Denver over the merits
of such intelligence gathering.

Many other big cities and the federal government imposed restrictions on police snooping after spying
scandals decades ago. In some of those places, including New York, the authorities are now trying to
remove the restraints. Denver has been in the unique position of debating post-Sept. 11 privacy and
security in the heat of a spying scandal, and not everyone thinks the police should be restricted.

"I think it's imperative after 9/11 that the police department and security agencies have an obligation to
track suspicious people, in order to keep the citizenry alive," said Councilman Ed Thomas, who argued
against restrictions. In a City Council debate, Mr. Thomas waved a list of the dead at the World Trade
Center to emphasize his point.

The Council nevertheless passed a resolution imposing restrictions on police intelligence.

"There is a role for intelligence gathering," said Mayor Wellington E. Webb, who has said he did not
know that the police were spying on peaceful citizens in his 11 years in office. "There isn't a role for
intelligence gathering on Catholic nuns."

The controversy began last March at a gathering place for Denver activists for a variety of causes, the
Human Bean coffee shop. Stephen Nash, a local glazier, was attending a meeting of Amnesty International
when, he said, the shop owner told him, "There was a salesman here earlier, and he left this for you."

The package contained printouts from the Denver Police Department's Orion software about Mr. Nash
and his wife, Vicki. The unusual thing was that the file had come from nearby Golden, where police
detectives looking into a vandalism incident during a protest had received information from Denver's
intelligence files.

"We realized the police were actually spreading false information about us to other police departments
-- that we were members of a `criminal extremist' organization," Mr. Nash said.

He took the documents to the American Civil Liberties Union and sued the Denver police, setting off a
series of continuing disclosures about police spying dating back decades. Police officers have admitted in
depositions that they made up rules for monitoring organizations, sometimes deciding to create files on
people who merely spoke at rallies.

Policy guidelines that would have prevented spying on ordinary citizens not suspected of criminal
wrongdoing sat in the desk of the captain who was head of the police intelligence bureau, never
implemented, according to a deposition by Deputy Chief David Abrams.

Among those monitored by the police were Dr. Plumley and his wife, Shirley Whiteside, who ran a soup
kitchen in Denver. Marge Taniwaki, who was interned with her parents in a Japanese-American camp in
World War II, had a police file, as did her former husband, from whom she had long been divorced. His only
connection, she said, was that he owned the car that she drove to a protest.

Sister Antonia Anthony, a 74-year-old nun who has taught destitute Indians in this country and Mexico,
was monitored for her activities with a nonviolent group advocating for Indians in Chiapas, Mexico.

"In a democracy, people have to speak out against evil," said Sister Antonia. But, she added,
discovering that the police had kept a file on her put fear in her mind. "I have to admit," she said, "I'm really
cautious on the road now. You're already on a list, you're `known' to police."

Orion officials say they trained the police to use the program, but some officers say they had no
training. Working under the direction of the Denver police intelligence bureau secretary, officers classified
organizations like the American Friends Service Committee as "criminal extremist" groups, one of the
choices offered in a pull-down menu by the software. Orion says the classification is no longer part of the
program.

David Pontarelli, a detective in the intelligence bureau, defended the characterization, saying in a
deposition, "They have been linked to activities that involved extremist activity, criminal activities." The
police said that each officer had used his own judgment in characterizing a group and that it had often been
labeled "criminal extremist" because it did not seem to fit any other choices.

In addition to their intelligence files, the police entered in the database the names of troubled, but
unprosecuted, students in Denver schools, along with the names of those who obtained permits to carry
concealed guns, and, inexplicably, people who had received honorariums from the Police Department.

Orion got its start two decades ago developing an analysis tool for the Defense Advanced Research
Projects Agency, where a new office run by Adm. John Poindexter is developing controversial plans to
gather vast amounts of personal information as a means to hunt terrorists.

With the Pentagon's approval, Orion says, it began selling a revamped version of its tool to law
enforcement agencies in the early 1990's, with little success at first.

Then California state officials hired Orion to develop an easy-to-use database for identifying suspected
gang members by their tattoos and other telltale signs. Now being used by 14 states, the system,
GangNet, remains controversial in California, where youth advocates say the information fed into the
database by law enforcement officials is riddled with wrong or outdated information that can lead officials to
falsely believe someone belongs to a gang.

Orion's Investigations, now being used by 20 local law enforcement agencies, lets officials enter
information about people, groups and incidents. The data can then be searched and linked, with charts that
draw lines to illustrate interconnections.

The company's sales model on its Web site has a gripping new pitch: terrorism. The demo charts some
of the known whereabouts of Mohamed Atta and other Sept. 11 hijackers, as well as several onetime
terrorist suspects.

In Denver, a panel appointed by the mayor concluded that the police had failed to understand both the
power and the pitfalls of the software. "I don't think they had a clue what the capacity of this was and what
they were doing with it, honestly," said Jean Dubofsky, a former Colorado Supreme Court justice and
member of the panel, which concluded that not one of the 3,400 police records could be legitimately
retained.

Justice Dubofsky's panel recommended some strict guidelines for intelligence gathering, similar to
those that the New York police have told a federal court they want removed. The guidelines have been
adopted, but otherwise, the panel could find no real harm done, even in the misuse of the software program.

"This is the kind of program that could have been very helpful before Sept. 11," said Justice Dubofsky.
"It's also a very powerful tool that can cause problems for people. If you're going to use it, you use it very
carefully."
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To: steve dietrich who wrote (332288)12/21/2002 6:20:44 PM
From: Skywatcher  Respond to of 769670
 
Another bunch of lies from the WHITEBOYZ House
White House Claims Web Security Plan Won't Invade Privacy
By REUTERS

Friday, 20 December, 2002

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Efforts to bolster Internet security will not lead to increased government
scrutiny of individuals' online habits, the White House and industry sources said on Friday.

As it finalizes sweeping guidelines that aim to increase cybersecurity, the Bush administration said
individual privacy would not be affected by efforts to prevent cyberattacks.

``The administration is not considering a proposal to monitor what individuals do on the Internet,'' a
spokesman for the transition to the newly created Department of Homeland Security said.

High-tech companies, meanwhile, said they would resist government efforts to get involved in the
day-to-day operation of the global computer network.

In a set of preliminary guidelines released in September, the White House said high-tech companies
that keep an eye on the Internet should combine their efforts and work with the government to better defend
against computer viruses, worms and other cyberattacks.

The New York Times in its Friday edition reported the White House is planning a bigger government role
in the proposed center that could possibly lead to surveillance of individual users.

But high-tech sources who had been briefed on the updated plans said they were not aware of any such
change, and White House Cybersecurity czar Richard Clarke assured high-tech firms the government only
wanted them to set up an ``early warning system'' to keep an eye on the health of the Internet

``This early warning system would, if companies chose to create it, involve only highly aggregated
information on the overall health of the Internet,'' Clarke said in a letter.

CAN'T READ E-MAILS

Internet infrastructure firms such as AT&T Corp. and VeriSign Inc. already maintain such ``network
operating centers'' on their own, keeping an eye out for unusual spikes in traffic that may signal a ``denial of
service'' attack similar to ones that have temporarily disabled high-profile sites like Yahoo! and the White
House.

But such centers cannot open e-mails or otherwise monitor content, industry experts say; the system
could not be used to ferret out members of al Qaeda or other militant groups.

The head of a high-tech trade group said government involvement in this system is not needed as these
companies are already in constant communication with each other.

``They already do it just fine, they don't need government help,'' said Harris Miller, president of the
Information Technology Association of America. ``There are so many people monitoring the system that
nothing's going to fall through the cracks.''

The system may be more like highway traffic cameras that watch for accidents rather than individual
police stops, but government involvement is still worrisome, said Stewart Baker, former general counsel to
the National Security Agency, who now represents Internet service providers.

``Even if they're only able to do the sorts of searches you'd expect a network operating center to be able
to do, it still raises these questions,'' Baker said. ``When do they leave the room?''

Internet service providers -- which do handle individual communications -- are not likely to cooperate with
government surveillance efforts unless commanded by court order, an industry source said, because it
would discourage people from using the Internet.

A spokesman for America Online said the company had not seen the revised guidelines and thus could
not comment, but said the popular access provider would work to balance privacy with security.

Privacy experts said they were not familiar with the revised version of the security plan, which is
expected to be released early next year.
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To: steve dietrich who wrote (332288)12/21/2002 8:02:25 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 769670
 
I think insults are very silly. And hurling them does nothing but demean the hurler. So, let them hurl, and I would much rather it was republicans doing the hurling. I always cringe when I see people who claim to be liberals sinking to such a level without outrageous provocation.

(i am very good at defining outrageous provocation. feel free to consult me at any time :-)