To: TobagoJack who wrote (26464 ) 12/23/2002 8:28:47 AM From: smolejv@gmx.net Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 74559 Hi Jay ... I am in a moralizing mood right now ;\ push Pollyana The fact is there's 360 tons of gas nowhere to be found in Iraqi directory, 3000 tons of raw material for nerve gas is missing (fed to chicken?...), nothing to say about A weapons' material... There's in any case a huge difference, if the world gets comfortably in the seats for the end-of-jan premiere, or realizes it has to make up its mind, what to do before, in between and thereafter. France is shifting in its position and I guess Germany - taking its seat on the security council Jan 1st ! - will probably as well. The election hooplas put Germany on the wrong side of the fence: maybe it made sense to refuse direct involvement in war, but there's absolutely no execuse to deal, in such a short-minded way, with a long-time ally. Here France, La Grande nation got laurels, while Berlin turned back into Berlin in times of Frederick the Great (knee-deep mud all over the place, horseshit on soldiers' boots) Whether we like it or not(its like the rules of war, Red Cross could probably countersign) this war should be fought, if at all, in the name of the world, not in the name of some neo-imperial thug on steroids (Now of course it looks like I'm looking for means to rationalize the unavoidable... ) In any case - as with every war - there's time after (I hope...). That's where US will need all the help it could get. "No, thank you, no", is not a policy of peace. Simple: we should not allow the outcome of this (still just possible, iow not 100% probable) war be worse than the reasons for it. pop Pollyana Survival strategy? Jay, my dingy will do any kind of weathers. I'll (of course) bet on gold, possibly trade on oil I guess. Looking forward to interesting time on the thread (sg). And, let's all not forget, that the news about the financial collapse in 2001 were greatly exaggerated. People just have no sense of time; RegZ dj