To: DeplorableIrredeemableRedneck who wrote (20923 ) 12/26/2002 3:28:32 PM From: Richnorth Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 27666 By the way, you haven't answered zonder's question yet. Apology? What apology? For what? Lying? That's your perception of it all. In case you have a short memory, seeMessage 18366224 Glad to hear you passed physics. I personally am aware that lots of kids got false passes in physics and other subjects and graduated from high school with diplomas that are not worth the paper on which they were printed. Prior to 1967, there were compulsory final exams in all provinces and compulsory final exams for Grade 13 in Ontario. But, following the 1967 Hall-Dennis Report's recommendation for no compulsory testing (since that would impose stress and thereby kill any joy of learning and associated feelings of success) compulsory testing at all grade levels vanished overnight. Result: the teachers had a free hand, they didn't feel bound by official guidelines and the standard of education went to the dogs, imperceptibly at first but it became so glaring later on that parents and employers and the universities complained about high schools having turned into diploma mills churning out functional illiterates!!! Some of these grads went to university where, depending on the courses they took, they were "accommodated" to a large extent with mickymousy stuff. Some of these grads emerged to teach high school under the ongoing lax rules. Result: they produced yet many more functional illiterates and worse, students who thought the schools were obligated to grant them diplomas. A number of these characters resorted to blackmail of sorts, whenever possible, to get pass marks!!! And school principals sometimes imposed upon their teachers to go easy on pass marks so that they could boast on paper relatively high percentages of passes in their schools and please a good number of parents (especially those in high places.) In many schools across this wide continent, teachers and parents and students constitute members of a mutual admiration society. And savvy are the teachers who realize this fact and go about their business accommodatingly! Yes, like it or not, the system is quite political and corrupt! The standard of education has been so low and the majority of the local students are so apathetic (they lack interest because of their work for money after school hours and their social life during the weekends) towards their studies that foreign students from far away places with strange sounding names, more often than not, filled the honour rolls!!! By the way, a good friend of mine (a retired school principal) confirmed that what I have written above is basically correct!