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To: long-gone who wrote (92205)12/27/2002 1:57:14 AM
From: E. Charters  Respond to of 116759
 
As our story has wound its way from golden palaces and religious icons, from Bezants to Dinars, from golden halls to golden tribute, and finally to the dumb barter of gold fin slabs of salt in darkest Africa, a disturbing question comes to the surface: Where is value? For the Europeans, the Byzantines, and the Arabs, gold was the magical focal point of their material desires. Not so for the Africans. To the Africans toiling for gold but starving for salt, the salt standard was a force far more powerful and durable than anything that the gold standard stood for in the sophisticated civilizations everywhere else on the globe. What must those poor diggers have thought of the funny people from the north country who swapped inestimable salt for stuff whose only role on earth was to give men pride and pleasure by letting them see its lustre?

The question reverberates into our own time.


This seeming paradox of value versus utility is oft repeated by wise men and fools, as a conundrum or a tale of instruction of the folly of valuing non-useful things. Strange indeed that this should be the province of otherwise intelligent economists who should be wise to the logical trap but may be venially kissing up to the Kings who control the rule of the Kingdom and decree its currency.

But it is clear to any Martian what the use of each thing was in the gold-salt trade. Each trader equally valued the gold and the salt at some rate of exchange. There was no question to the African or Arab, so there should be none to us. If the African really did not want gold for valuable salt, he would have refused it would he not? If he knew nothing of gold, he still would have been presuaded to use it, as the buyer obviously used it as money, so it had a use in return trade. It became a trade marker. But it did have wide use in African society then, so it was not just that.

The salt was used to preserve meats in hot climates before refrigeration, and the gold was used as an impossible to counterfeit money to balance that trade. Another way of saying it is, what is money? In a currency and coinless society, where structures of trade are not universally accepted, then gold, silver and gems are the only trade items sufficiently compact to act as standards. They could not leave wood, iron, or food as trade, and many other arficats were hard to value, or suffered from saturation, so gold would have to suffice. And to say gold had no use in their society was perhaps naive. It was a corrosion proof jewelry item of great beauty, and detector of some poisons when used in chalices. Is use in trade was without question all across Asia and Europe. In that it was almost universally used by man throughout the world, whether contacted by trade or not, shows the esteem in which the metal was held intrinsically.

The African-Arab exchange of gold and salt was primitive perhaps, but is it antiquated today? It is remarkably simple and still useful in the modern age. Such trade from nation to nation is far more common than many would admit. As late as 1970 the Arabs proposed gold-oil trade as a reliable scheme or exchange, as US dollar devaluation loomed after decades of inflation. The US under Nixon, subsequently let gold float. The master of the public lie, Nixon told the US that he thought that gold would sink in price when cut free! No one else had thought so for the past 30 years, and governments were more than willing to pay more than the US price for it, ostensibly to support their mining industry. But the governments had a more practical use than mere industrial support I think. At any rate the traders bid gold up and now the US had a formidable weapon in a much inflated gold to trade for oil, the modern day salt.

For further insight into this logical conundrum of value versus utility, the reader is suggested to search "the paradox of value, diamonds and water" on the internet search engines. He will quickly find the story of the modern economists who resolved the great economic paradox as to why man is willing to pay far more for diamond than for water, the latter which he cannot do without. The resolution of this concept is embodied in what is called the "marginal value" of utility. Marginal value is the unit value of an item as the total number of available items increases. The concept of utility versus luxury value is also illuminated by the economic precepts of the price-elasticity of supply or demand for different items. (How much price changes as you supply or demand more items) Luxury items show little price-elasticity "of demand" (item availability or items sold.. same thing almost) where as utilities are very elastic price wise. i.e their price changes greatly with surfeit. **This allows luxury items to have a very stable price as they are inelastic of supply and demand to a greater degree than most other commodities, and thus allows their use a reliable items of pure exchange.** This is despite their natural price being high because of rarity. Their rarity also serves to function as a control on counterfeiting and a control on excess supply, or currency flood. Which, a trifle paradoxically, increases their value.. A compact luxury item that is hard to counterfeit is enhanced in value and stability of value so provides a medium of exchange -- or becomes a touchstone of value. The most primitive African tribesman knew that. It is time for our modern student of economics to catch up.

EC<:-}



To: long-gone who wrote (92205)12/27/2002 9:00:06 AM
From: IngotWeTrust  Respond to of 116759
 
What a wonderful contribution, Richard. Thanks so much. So THAT's where the love affair of the Arab world has its gold dinar genesis. No wonder it survives to this day as the 'preferred' Islamic currency on the come. Simply fascinating.

Have a good day.
gold & platinum_tutor



To: long-gone who wrote (92205)12/27/2002 9:24:23 AM
From: IngotWeTrust  Respond to of 116759
 
Also noted: VORACIOUS Arab appetites drove the early dinar mints to 24-7-365-ish type production schedules in order to support then Arab lifestyles. That kind of history and ravenous appetites for the early gold dinar may well be the foundation for similar frenzy on the come.

What a delicious musing...the thought of having some they don't acquire to back 100% their own e*dinar coming smack dab at us in March O3. Fight Fire w/Fire as the old saying goes.

The gold cover clause BETTER come back into "vogue"...else the 3rd world status slated for us by our enemies is not such a far-fetched plot!

....if ONLY there were a catalytic converter invented to properly exhaust the methane spewing camel (or Bolink)...t'would make mah day!

gold & platinum_tutor