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To: Alighieri who wrote (156830)	12/27/2002 1:10:36 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1580688

There is a big gap between supporting a tyrant and forcefully acting to replace him...unilaterally no less. Unilaterally? What the HELL are you talking about? We haven't done a damned thing unilaterally, and as the facts have come out there was NEVER any intent on the part of Bush to do anything unilaterally. You have chronically made statements of this nature, where you have, in effect, confused the rhetoric of backdoor diplomacy with what is actually going on within the administration. All the while, Bush is saying, "We've made no decision" and the liberals are squealing like a bunch of excited pigs, "he's decided this, he's decided that." I think this comes from eight years of having a liar at the helm. You can't believe it when you hear a president tell the truth.

To: Alighieri who wrote (156830)	12/27/2002 3:20:10 PM
From: hmaly	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1580688

Alighieri Re...Yeah...that's why we are such strong supporters of Saudi Arabia. Nothing to do with their oil...it's just that we admire their society <<gg>> One tyrant at a time. Just have a little patience in your war mongering desires. Gw just may have to do something about SA; but give it a little time. There is a big gap between supporting a tyrant and forcefully acting to replace him...unilaterally no less. Really. I would suggest that for the children and poor of Iraq, it makes little difference if we say "Atta boy Saddam" or if we just stand by idly. Either way, they are poor or dead. They will only truly be helped if we get rid of Saddam. Nobody in the world subscribes to American policy of regime change in Iraq (or anywhere else for that matter). Now I am shocked to hear that. When did that coward Tony Blair cut and run. One would think it would have made the papers at least. Associating liberalism with marxism? Now you are completely off the wall...or is this the final conservative demonizing step? They are both forms of socialism. Marxism is Marx's governmental form of socialism; which is a classless society. Liberalism as practiced by the dems, is a society where a democratic gov. creates a classless society by taking from the rich and giving to the poor; thereby creating one class, the poor; who happen to mainly vote democratic. Are you happy now? DO you aknowledge the unpopularity? Some , sure, why not. Even I am not entirely thrilled with the US, however, I never hated the US no matter who was president. You have professed to love it when the US bombed the Balkans, but will hate if and when we bomb Iraq. Strange. Were those some kind of love bombs Bill was dropping? Did all of those little kiddies in Yugoslavia deserve and love them any more than the children in Iraq will? Why the hypocrisy? You will note that I supported, and now support a forceful end to both tragic situations, no matter who was, or is president. Will that make us popular? I am not sure that popularity is the only thing we should be considering here. Is it the right thing. I believe so. I am demanding that we do it peacefully. And if Saddam doesn't want to go peacefully; then what???? It's much easier to drop a few bombs, kill a few thousand locals and claim it was for the good of their country anyway. Sickening. And somehow you think what is happening there now isn't sickening? Better to get it over with, than to let it continue. You should also consider American foreign policy for the last 50 odd years and ask yourself what we have been doing relative to Cuba, China, Vietnam, Korea, the USSR, the Balkans, Indonesia, Malaysia, Central America, etc... I am not sure what you are trying to say here. That all of those countries would have been better off if we wouldn't have interfered. Name me one country, which has prospered under communism, Russia, China, NK. Cuba perhaps. However I can name you several countries who have prospered under democracy. Does Japan ring a bell. Germany, E Germany now, South Korea, etc. Israel. Now. Americans tend to want to forget the time when Afghanistan was a tool of American opposition to the USSR and how it was quickly abandoned (to the Taliban and AlQueda) when the USSR pulled out. Perhaps you haven't read, the Us just went back there to correct that mistake. Give it a little time before you pronounce it dead this time. If you do not travel this will be difficult for you to understand, but we are universally disliked around the world....Australia included. Australia even. Whats next, your Mexico scare, Canada, Great Britian? According to you, do I dare even to leave my house, without my dog biting me, because I am an American.