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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: JDN who wrote (334169)	12/28/2002 1:18:12 PM
From: Bald Eagle	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769667

RE: WHY ISNT KEN LAY IN JAIL Perhaps because he hasn't been convicted of a crime?

To: JDN who wrote (334169)	12/28/2002 3:52:30 PM
From: American Spirit	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 769667

I think Kenny Lay knows too much. He may be blackmailing the White House. The depths of his involvement in the Bush-Cheney election are only partially known but I do know these facts: 1) B-C had free use of Enron private jets 2) Lay helped Bush make a lot of money and vice versa before the election 3) Lay was THE man in Houston at the time along with James Baker to get things done for the Bushes 4) Enron spent 100 million on politicians and lobbyists influencing policies in 1999-2001, a staggering amount, at least 80% to Republicans and Bushies in particular, much of which was not reported as campaign contributions but was under the table. 5) The phony energy crisis was at least partly devised by Enron and was directly used by Bush-Cheney to make energy an issue, ehough to cost Gore the election (along with a lot of other things) 6) Lay was considered the #1 Bush chocie for Secretary of Treasury and gave the new administration a big wish list and advice list, much of which was given and taken. Bottomline, Lay could cost Bush the election in 2004 by opening his mouth as much as he helped win him the election in 2002. My guess is blackmail. It happens all the time in the world of politics and business. The opposite of scratch my back I'll scratch yours. I will be shocked if Ken Lay ever sees a prison cell and he is probably the #1 crook in US business/politics. But of course, the people who went along with him and helped him are also guilty. A grand cover-up is required here, or at least to stall everything until after 2004 when it doesn't matter to people anymore.

To: JDN who wrote (334169)	12/30/2002 5:49:20 PM
From: Logain Ablar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 769667

JDN: The case against Ken Lay is being built one step at a time. Its just like the days of Al Capone. They didn't get Al for murder but did nail him for tax evasion. Patience and watch them nail him for at least insider selling. To nail him for fraud they are going to have to tie him with hard evidence and colaboration. ditto for Shilling. obviously difficult to do as both of these guys knew what they were doing. Now Fastow and some of the accounting guys are in trouble. PS - if you haven't figured it out by now AS is one of those guys who spews falsehoods and rubbish with a few truths. I used to have him on ignore which I just reestablished. The guy is clueless.