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Politics : Foreign Policy Discussion Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: lorne who wrote (1221)	12/30/2002 1:20:43 AM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

<So just what kind of freedom don't you have in New Zealand?> Well, quite a lot. Overall, everything is prohibited unless it's specifically approved. You also commented: <I don't recall saying anything that would cause you to reply with this...." Oh, I see Lorne, it's freedom to be like you. That's how they do it in other countries too.".....> Well, here's where you said my ideas on going naked, marrying a bunch of young women [age 13], smoking dope etc were not acceptable in the USA - calling my little collection of ideas unstable and worth keeping out. <I think the USA is trying to keep unstable folks out...as for the marring thing...that would make you mormon or moslem. Are you normal mormon or muslim or a radical? Oh and at age 13 those would be considered young girls..kids....over here of course > One needn't be Moslem or Mormon to want to marry a bunch of women. I'm neither. Actually, neither do I really want to go naked, marry a bunch of women [age 13 or anything else - then again, maybe half a dozen would be okay if I had the financial resources], or smoke dope. I was merely giving an example of some behaviour which is illegal in the USA but is just a matter for individuals in a free society [or one which ignores those things as a state interest]. Overall, my point is that nowhere on earth is free. Nowhere do adults operate on a voluntary basis with governments keeping their nosey, bossy, dictatorial natures out of personal affairs. libertarianz.org.nz for how things might be in New Freeland where people really would be free. Here's a summary. The reconstituted United Nations I seek should be along the same lines. <INDIVIDUAL SOVEREIGNTY Each individual is the owner of his own life and has the right to live it as he sees fit, subject only to the requirement that he respect the right of others to do the same. PERSONAL FREEDOM & RESPONSIBILITY Just as each person is free to make his own choices in life, so too must he take responsibility for the choices he makes. PRIVATE PROPERTY Each person has the right to create or lawfully acquire property -- real, intellectual or physical -- and to control its use. VOLUNTARY ASSOCIATION All interaction among adult human beings, in all spheres of life, should be voluntary. NON-INITIATION OF FORCE The only acts that may properly be banned in any free society are those which involve the initiation of force or fraud by one party against another. COMMON LAW The only laws that can properly be justified in any free society are those which protect people and their property from the initiation of force or fraud, or which uphold voluntary contractual agreements among citizens. LIMITED GOVERNMENT The only legitimate function of government is to uphold these principles. CAPITALISM The only economic system consistent with these principles is the free market. > Mqurice