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To: elpolvo who wrote (20415)	12/30/2002 1:38:32 PM
From: Mannie	Respond to of 104157

Yeah, Polvie, I saw that this morning.. Friday we had 100mph winds, that tends to build very large unbalanced cornices of snow that are hanging, waiting to break loose. I know right where those guys were, they really underestimated the dangers...obviously. There is only so much you can know..last year a buddy and I skied out onto an exposed face, just outside of the ski area, and the whole snow field started to slide. we were able to exit, stage left and watch the whole thing slide a way from us...that opens your eyes and teaches respect.. scoot

To: elpolvo who wrote (20415)	12/30/2002 2:15:52 PM
From: stockman_scott	Respond to of 104157

THE TEMPTATION OF WAR A new memoir by Daniel Ellsberg, the man who leaked the Pentagon Papers, warns that Presidents will do anything to avoid losing wars Politics & Prose \| by Jack Beatty Atlantic Unbound \| October 23, 2002 theatlantic.com <<...With Al Qaeda rampant abroad and the threat of its striking the U.S. at summer-of-2001 levels; with the Saudis refusing to close off the sources of its funding and Saudi-backed madrassas still staining young minds with hatred of the West, with fundamentalist parties ascendant in nuclear-armed Pakistan, with the Karzai government shaky in Afghanistan and Karzai himself the target of assassination, with suicide bombers terrorizing Israel and the Israeli retaliation making enemies for the United States throughout the Arab world—with the "war on terror" far from "won," Bush is poised to attack Iraq. Fear of Saddam Hussein's getting nuclear weapons drives Bush. But so does fear of "losing" the war begun on September 11. The Pentagon Papers show that Presidents will do anything to avoid paying the political price of "losing." James Madison feared that Presidents might make war as, when, and why they chose if they had the power. The "temptation" was too much for any one man. So the framers reserved the war-making authority for the Congress. Congress has now delegated that authority to President Bush, who must now struggle alone against what history shows is the worst temptation of his office...>>