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Politics : PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: J.B.C. who wrote (336582)	1/2/2003 6:20:24 PM
From: Baldur Fjvlnisson	Respond to of 769669

You wingers really are desperate. Arabs and Koreans play with your dead beat leaders, nobody outside the U.S. takes this mess seriously. Your financial markets are in ruins. Three trillion dollars are hidden off balance sheets. As few as 30% of the companies underlying the S&P 500 may be bankrupt already. Why do you think foreign capital is busy fleeing this mess? Why do you think rats are fleeing the leaky Bush administration bucket?

To: J.B.C. who wrote (336582)	1/2/2003 6:40:52 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 769669

You know what's really funny? The turkey very likely IS am American. Remember the repeated questions thrown at him when he first showed and he was attacking American law and the SEC in particular? Allegations that he was wanted by law enforcement in this country and was on the lam? He would never answer those allegations. He won't answer these questions either: Message 18394062 Strange. I have no problem answering those questions.

To: J.B.C. who wrote (336582)	1/2/2003 6:58:48 PM
From: George Coyne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 769669

Jim, I think it is partially because he is brain dead. There is nothing to take on. It is not worth wasting much time on. As long as we all recognize that he is simply spewing vitriol because he is bitter, that is the important thing. He will tire of pissing upwind eventually.

To: J.B.C. who wrote (336582)	1/2/2003 7:57:58 PM
From: MSI	Respond to of 769669

A couple problems there -- a)you classify "liberals" as those who don't object to criticism of Bush or the Washington establishment, obviously w/o taking the trouble to understand the meaning either of the term, or the critiques. b)the epithets and threats without substance looks like panic. I see epithets from BF, but as an aside to the facts, and without the "get off my cloud" type panic. And there's a willingness even eagerness to defend opinions with data. I notice the response from those who feel it's necessary to personally defend Bush against the real or imagined criticism of uncomfortable facts or questions is to ignore or deny the facts, accept the facts but blame someone else (Clinton or democrats or "you liberals"), threaten the poster, or panic, rather than to come back with other facts to substantiate or counter the assertions. It certainly takes more "backbone" and hard work to determine the truth, and would make more sense, if that's the goal. With some, that isn't the goal obviously, some are more comfortable raising the noise level. Agreed, it's certainly irritating when someone takes issue with closely-held beliefs. But there may things you believe in that don't add up when looked at in daylight. If so, they don't go away just by firing the messenger. I say this because it's MPO we're headed into rough waters, economically and politically, this year, with greater polarization that we've seen, maybe since the Civil War. It's time to ruthlessly examine every premise, every so-called "fact", and every leader's motives and results, and see who's telling the truth, who benefits and who loses, with every step towards possible disaster.