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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (157370)	1/3/2003 4:09:12 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1582284

I didn't dispute any of the facts in your link so it isn't a case of "me knowing better". Why does this make it better? You didn't dispute the facts on my link but rather my argument......why should I feel good about that? I put the facts in context. You did? How do you know it was in the right context? If you think anything I said was wrong then why don't you challenge what I said rather then making some vague unfocused attack based on me supposedly ignoring the facts presented by the site you linked to. I am not sure you read my post very carefully......my attack wasn't vague or unfocused. Once again, you interject yourself into an exchange which I don't mind at all, but in doing so, you carefully divert the discussion to an area or manipulate it such a way that undermines my initial intent. A synaposis of the post exchange between Ray and I: Very simply.......D. Ray claims that the Dems. failed to provide adequate resources for the Vietnam War........without providing the link[s] to support his claim. Because I had heard differently, I, in turn, looked up the manpower totals for each war and found that the Vietnamese War had significant manpower and compared favorably with other wars.....and one knows we don't send our troops in without adequate equipment to back them up. So I present that link as proof that D. Ray's claim is not necessarily correct. Of course, what D. Ray has conveniently forgotten is that it was concluded at the end of the Vietnam War the reason we lost was because we were unfamiliar with jungle terrain and the kind of fighting that it requires. Then you step in with your unsupported claim that in the Vietnam War [and apparently no other war].....guys were sent to the front on tours and therefore the total manpower shown on the link is incorrect and does not reflect the true totals of that war. Now, what's interesting is that it doesn't tell you on the link how they calculate their manpower numbers......your assuming your position is correct. Plus, they do show the total manpower for the military in all locations at any given time which suggests the total shown for Vietnam was also a total for any given time. Further, if you look at the numbers of deaths in the Vietnam War, the number is higher than even the number for the Korean War which had an even higher manpower total. Again, assuming the Korean totals are not skewed by tours, this relationship of deaths to enlisted men suggests the manpower total shown for the Vietnam War is an accurate one for a given moment in time and not for the entire war, tours notwithstanding. So what did I get out of your post.....not much except annoyed. And then you criticize me because I am annoyed. Its clear you enter these posts under the self understood guise that you are coming from a position of neutrality and fairness. However, in reality, I think you have your own agenda and present it accordingly........ ted