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To: skinowski who wrote (67244)	1/3/2003 7:42:26 PM
From: Fred Levine	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 70976

I have been reading the Foreign Affairs thread, which I have been banned from, and many intelligent posts don't see the significance of 9/11. I agree with you, Ski. Keep in mind that the damage was the maximum that they could conceive of, and that they would do more if possible. Their tribal mentality defines all Americans as their enemy and therefore deserving" of retaliation. Bin Laden has stated that, (to paraphrase) "just as they kill us, we shall kill them." It is a holy duty within Islam to commit to the Jihad until the world is converted. Obviously, only a minority of the Muslim world interprets their responsibility this way, and there is much in Islam declaring peace. Indeed, more is emphasized in charity than, arguably, any other religion. Al Queda is real and is a threat. I suspect that the threat has been enlarged for propaganda purposes, but the threat is real. To repeat, IMO, Bush has gotten the inspectors in and there hasn't been a war. Getting the inspectors in is a tremendous act of containment. War would polarize an increasingly polarized world. Yet, the Israeli bombing of the Iraqi nuclear sites was universally condemned but led to a safer world. I am concerned that, just as the constant wars with the Arabs have transformed Israel from an idealistic socialist state into a militaristic one, Bush will do the same. If the only tool one has is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Bush seems to have a limited repertoire of responses. fred

To: skinowski who wrote (67244)	1/5/2003 1:27:10 PM
From: zonder	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 70976

What you said was: nukes existed for generations, but the proliferation into the hands of rogue governments and terrorists is a new phenomenon. I read through the article you posted and it claims some extremists (who, though?) have more than 20 nuclear warheads and are now (in 1999) employing Russian scientists. So? I still don't know of a terrorist organization that has nukes. If they had nukes, you think that would keep it a secret? Or would they boast? of posting quotes in italics You put this before the quote: <.I.> (without the dots) And you put this after the quote: <./.I.> (without the dots)