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To: jim black who wrote (26875)	1/5/2003 10:07:20 PM
From: JHP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

<<I found nothing accessible about the CA ranch>> try finance.yahoo.com regards John

To: jim black who wrote (26875)	1/6/2003 3:01:14 AM
From: Tony Joines	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 74559

The Hawaii landowner might be Alexander & Baldwin (Nasdaq: ALEX), which owns 91,000 acres of land there, and has been there since 1870. It's the largest landowner on Maui, and the fifth-largest in Hawaii as a whole. alexanderbaldwin.com [Edit - I wrote this reply before seeing that you had already found A & B.]

To: jim black who wrote (26875)	1/6/2003 3:43:12 AM
From: energyplay	Respond to of 74559

There's another Florida land company which is very undervalued - it get profiled in Barron's about every two years, and still doesn't move much. Name maybe Arvida or Deltona..can't remember. The stock is like 20% of book vlaue based on land acquisiton prices from the 1950s on to about 1970, so maybe 3% of real book. Stock doesn't trade much. You buy it and it sits there for another year. After a while, you start to appreciate what Keynes said about the long run...