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To: fatty who wrote (7879)	1/5/2003 5:30:41 PM
From: tony	Respond to of 306849

I'm sure if some lawyer is willing, he can easily make a class action lawsuit against any big IT coporations. I am kind of surprised that we do not have class action suit against these employers for abusing H1-B program.

To: fatty who wrote (7879)	1/5/2003 6:34:39 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Respond to of 306849

. In effort to keep the H1-B (who usually works much harder and endures more promotion/raise discriminations), the In my experience, this isn't true at all. For one thing, when I hire a foreign worker I have no way to verify their education or background like I can a US worker. I can only interview them and decide to hire based on a "gut feel". I have been burned many, many times by this because at least one culture seems to have an inherent issue with lying on their resume about their experience. You don't find this out until you try to launch the project, however. In the past when I have hired H1-b's, it is usually because the company I am working with is requiring a fulltime employee in the job and not a contractor. The US citizens around here prefer contracting for a number of reasons, I have had to take an H1-B. Lizzie

To: fatty who wrote (7879)	1/5/2003 7:46:42 PM
From: jt101	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

<<From my experience, there are lots of abuses with this process. In effort to keep the H1-B (who usually works much harder and endures more promotion/raise discriminations), the employer often exeggerated the H1-B's qualifications and responsibilities to make sure that no body ever wanted to apply for that job.>> I agree with you, though I am sure some here don't. I don't know the current situation, but I can say with certainty that H1B did have some plus points. I remember in summer/fall 1998, there was a task to make sure the system is Y2K compatible. (Whether this was essential or not is a different topic altogether). The rates quoted by the leading US consulting companies were $175/hour for programmers and $300/hour for the team lead. Fortunately some Indian company quoted rates at $65/hour and $90/hour respectively and they finished the work in 3 months compared to the average 4 months quoted by leading IT company here. Why should one pay such high dollars for a simple task involving checking COBOL code? It is after all free and open market and it is part of Globalization. In countries like Malaysia/India/China, a lot of local restaurant owners are complaining about KFC/McD/Pizza hut etc.. killing their business, but the process is continuing... In the end, the one who offers the most value-for-money (VFM) wins... It is as simple as that... The sad irony is, the more the opposition to H1B program here, the more jobs will move overseas, to India /Ireland /China/ Polad /Russia...