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To: Mr. Sunshine who wrote (7053)	1/5/2003 10:07:35 PM
From: Mr. Sunshine	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 8393

To all, I went to the San Diego Auto show this weekend and was very impressed with two Hybrid vehicles by Honda. Unfortunately, their were no pure alternative fuel vehicles (other than golf carts), and the Honda's were the only Hybrids. The first Honda was a two seater that had fuel efficiency of about 56 city and 55 highway. That is from memory, it may be one MPG off, but city driving was 1 MPG better than the highway number. I talked with a guy who had test drove one and he raved about how great it was. Very smooth, with plenty of power. The second version was a 4 seater with mileage in the high 40's. They had run out of brochures, but the Honda rep told me both models ran on Nickel Metal Hydrid batteries that were expected to last 15 to 20 years ("the lifetime of the vehicles") and used regenerative braking. He said his dealership in Escondido (that's in North San Diego county) usually had about 4 in stock at any time. To me the most surprising thing was the price - only about $21,000!!!

To: Mr. Sunshine who wrote (7053)	1/6/2003 4:35:09 AM
From: Allen Bucholski	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 8393

Steve, I can't back this up but I got this information from Yahoo board. Maybe Alfranco may comet on this who is a very fine poster on solar energy. This information is not fact its what someone has speculated to happen in future with 30 megawatt machine is running full blast. It may be better or it may be worse. Electricity may sell for 28 cents a kilowatt from solar panels from 30 megawatt machine. Lowest price then any one else making panels I have been told. The cost of electricity in Lincoln Park, the Detroit area, in Michigan is about 7 cents a kilowatt. However the price for electricity in California is said to be about 12 cent a kilowatt. When you add 14 cents federal and state tax breaks it brings cost down to 14 cents a kilowatt using the 28 cent starting price. . A niche market can be found where its hard to bring electricity out with a lot of expense in power lines in remote areas. A niche market for more reliable power is also a factor. The Green factor ect.... ECD won't actually no until its running and selling product. If a 100 megawatt machine is done a much lower cost pet kilowatt is expected.(I don't even no the tax breaks in Michigan I belive their is a break in Michigan too. I really cant remember who gave me those numbers United -Solar I assume hopes their right. (Maybe someone else on the board remembers these numbers and can say where they came from.) Allen