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To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (1901)	1/7/2003 9:04:41 PM
From: Hawkmoon	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 15987

King Abdullah was assassinated for annexing Gaza to Jordan in 1945. the "other" Arabs had an agreement to keep Gaza separate. You're very creative with your revisionist history Len... King Abdullah was assassinated by direction of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (remember our history lesson about him and his Nazi collaborations during WWII??) in 1951, not 1945... palestinefacts.org And refresh yourself with this link about the Grand Mufti: palestinefacts.org "From Egypt al-Husseini was among the sponsors of the 1948 war against the new State of Israel. Spurned by the Jordanian monarch, who gave the position of Grand Mufti of Jerusalem to someone else, Haj Amin al-Husseini arranged King Abdullah's assassination in 1951, while still living in exile in Egypt. King Tallal followed Abdullah as king of Jordan, and he refused to give permission to Amin al-Husseini to come into Jordanian Jerusalem. After one year, King Tallal was declared incompetent; the new King Hussein also refused to give al-Husseini permission to enter Jerusalem. King Hussein recognized that the former Grand Mufti would only stir up trouble and was a danger to peace in the region. Btw Len..., Gaza was NEVER under Jordanian control.... Don't you feel even the bit embarrassed by your lack of credibility when you present such false, but easily verifiable facts?? Hawk

To: Elmer Flugum who wrote (1901)	1/7/2003 10:21:47 PM
From: lorne	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 15987

Hey len. You got anything to say about those dam French killing and screwing up peace efforts in a country not their own. It was a former French colony, and the French are still there enforcing their ways, thought you had some anti colony words about the State of Israel not to many posts ago? Ivory Coast Rebels Criticize French By AUSTIN MERRILL Associated Press Writer January 7, 2003, 3:58 PM EST ABIDJAN, Ivory Coast -- The main rebel group in northern Ivory Coast accused French forces on Tuesday of endangering peace efforts in the West African nation. The comments came a day after French soldiers fought their deadliest engagement yet with western-based rebels. Thirty rebels were killed and nine French soldiers injured, one seriously. In a statement Tuesday, Guillaume Soro, leader of the northern rebels, said the French army has become "barbaric and murderous." French army spokesman Lt. Col. Ange-Antoine Leccia rejected the accusation, saying Tuesday that "if we are attacked, we are going to fight back." "We are continuing as always with our same mission," Leccia said. "Yesterday we did nothing but respond." More than 2,000 French soldiers are in the former French colony, on a mission to protect foreigners and enforce a repeatedly violated cease-fire in the country's now nearly four-month-old rebellion. The French army said Monday's battle broke out when rebels fired mortars at two French positions around Duekoue, a strategic western town that straddles main roads leading to the central town of Daloa and the southwestern port of San Pedro -- both in government hands. Although his rebels were not involved in Monday's clashes, Soro expressed "consternation and revulsion" their western compatriots were killed fighting for the same goal. Two rebel factions are operating in the cocoa- and coffee-rich West, and like their northern counterparts, they want President Laurent Gbagbo to resign. Sidiki Konate, a spokesman for the northern rebel movement, said the western-based rebels must not be discounted if peace is to return to the country. "They must be taken seriously and not qualified as disorganized hotheads," Konate said, accusing the French of treating the rebel deaths lightly. "It is the blood of Ivorians that is being spilled by a foreign army," he said adding that incidents like Monday's clashes could "seriously compromise the serenity needed for peace talks." However, Konate said his group remained committed to taking part in peace talks in Paris, slated to begin Jan. 15. Gbagbo has also agreed to take part and, like the northern rebels, has pledged to respect a cease-fire reached in October. The western rebels never agreed to any truce and their position on the peace talks is not yet known. Fighters from neighboring Liberia are said to have joined their ranks, and fleeing residents have accused the Liberians of raping, looting and killing. Liberian rebels are notorious throughout West Africa for their lack of discipline, extreme violence and drug use. Government spokesman Toussaint Alain accused the rebels on Tuesday of not being interested in a political solution, saying "the rebellion wishes to stop the peaceful dynamic" of diplomatic efforts. The war began in September with the northern rebels trying to oust Gbagbo in a coup. Hundreds have been killed and tens of thousands displaced. U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees spokesman Kris Janowski urged help Tuesday for the displaced, saying in Geneva that "the volatile situation in western Ivory Coast has made it imperative that we move the entire refugee population in the country ... to safer locations." Janowski estimated that there are as many as 60,000 refugees near areas of conflict, many of them in the West. newsday.com