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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (157619)	1/8/2003 12:24:31 PM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1583406

Ted, <Frankly, I am sick of hearing him run on and on how Clinton screwed things up when it comes to NK.> I'm sure EVERYONE is tired of hearing it, just as I'm tired of hearing about George Bush being a nitwit, unable to talk, how his "axis of evil" speech CAUSED the situtation in NK, etc. The reality is that Bush inherited horrible foreign policy problems from the previous administration -- not only in NK but in Iraq. This comes as no suprise to many.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (157619)	1/8/2003 12:39:31 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1583406

Ted, <Frankly, I am sick of hearing him run on and on how Clinton screwed things up when it comes to NK.> Well ... the 1994 treaty was signed on Clinton's watch, if not Clinton's blessing. And America never held to its end of the bargain, which North Korea claims is why they restarted their nuclear weapons program in 1998. Its not as simplistic as that.......Clinton was ready to get heavy handed with NK. However, at the last minute, Carter asked Clinton to let him try to negotiate a treaty with NK. While he succeeded, it wasn't to Clinton's satisfaction. However, Carter did an end run around Clinton and went public with the treaty, forcing Clinton to go along with it. The treaty wasn't all that bad but when NK started to screw around in 1998, Clinton didn't act probably for the same reasons that Reagan didn't and Bush Sr. didn't and Bush Jr. isn't. First, relatively rational leaders of democracies don't go and invade countries easily. If that were true, there are probably at least 6 countries on a very short list that need us to go in and clean up. No rational democratic leader wants blood on his hands if he can help it and that includes Bush Jr. for all his bluster. Only dictators seem to enjoy the kill. What democracies do best is what Bush is doing now.....mobilizing US forces from around the globe and sending them into the ME to intimidate Saddam. However, as big as our military is we probably only have enough ships and planes to do that bullying tactic one country at a time. Back in 1998, I suspect Clinton was tied up with Kosovo and let NK go just as Bush Jr. is tied up with Saddam. Did Clinton screw things up? Hard to say, given that North Korea has always been screwed up. But Clinton did think he gave Bush a Korean victory to build off of. That turned out to be wishful thinking. I have heard that but I don't know the details. Why did Clinton think he was handing Bush Jr. a victory? ted