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To: teevee who wrote (65178)1/10/2003 12:23:05 AM
From: frankw1900  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
THEY WANT MONEY "North Korea's true intentions remain a mystery" BBC

How impossibly stupid can some people be!

They want money!

They SAY they want money. They are DEMANDING money.

They want money.

frank@kiss.shakedown.il



To: teevee who wrote (65178)1/12/2003 11:39:52 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 281500
 
HOT DEBATE ON WAR WITH IRAQ HAS YET TO REACH CONGRESS

19 minutes ago
1/12/03
By Mary McGrory
Syndicated Columnist

news.yahoo.com

WASHINGTON -- The barely breathing peace community is clinging to a faraway figure, Britain's foreign secretary, Jack Straw. He's in London, and he's all they've got. He said last week that the odds on going to war had shifted from 60-40 for war to 60-40 for peace.



Tony Blair (news - web sites)'s defense minister, Geoff Hoon, promptly labeled the Straw statement "unhelpful." The Guardian ran a story saying that Blair begged Bush to hold off on the bombs -- a report that 10 Downing Street calls "rubbish." There were questions in Parliament and speculation that the Brits are "going wobbly" -- an echo of Margaret Thatcher's famous admonition to Bush I when another gulf war (news - web sites) was brewing.

In other words, there is a hot debate going on in England about the wisdom of going to war. There is none here. A majority in the so-called opposition party, the Democrats, tied its tongue by voting for a resolution that made no mention of U.N. inspectors or resolutions and told the president to use whatever force he deemed necessary.

As for the nuclear tantrum of North Korea (news - web sites), nobody seems to have any ideas. The depiction of the certifiable Kim Jong Il as a reasonable man, susceptible to rational argument, is bizarre, but sometimes the rhetoric of the desperate administration officials almost suggests he is a Nelson Mandela kind of fella. A measure of their cluelessness is their reaching out for a Clinton-era figure, ex-Democratic congressman Bill Richardson, the newly elected governor of New Mexico, who met last week with North Korean representatives.

The statement by Hans Blix, the chief U.N. arms inspector, that his team had found "no smoking gun" in Iraq exasperated White House spokesman Ari Fleischer (news - web sites). The administration insists that Saddam has forbidden weapons, although it won't tell us how it knows. We could bomb Baghdad just in case. On the other hand, if the wretch fesses up to toxic stashes in the sand, we would bomb Baghdad to punish him.

One theory goes that it is all a gigantic and masterly scam. The bellicosity, the escalated dispatch of troops, will frighten Saddam into giving up and going into exile. In this swirl, it's no wonder that Democrats would rather talk about the economy and Bush's plan to coddle the coupon-clippers.

The only anti-war demonstration on Capitol Hill was Rep. Charlie Rangel's proposal to revive the draft. Rangel, a New York Democrat, points out that a democracy should take its armed forces from the general population without regard to ethnicity or economics.

"I hope to raise enough hell so that people will pause before they vote for war, and stop and think that their sons and daughters could be involved, and is it worth it?"

Rangel got a good reception, he says. At a House caucus on Bush's economic plan, he was peppered with questions about the draft and offers to co-sponsor his bill.

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld was horrified. Unnecessary and unwise, he fumed. What he meant is that the draft means trouble for those who make war. The draft during Vietnam meant campuses ablaze and seething streets; it meant occupation of the dean's office and Capitol Hill sit-ins by respectable, middle-aged women who ferociously objected to having their sons and daughters killed for reasons they did not understand. Rumsfeld called it "all the churning that took place."

No churning is occurring now. The war was not an issue in the campaign. It may be that no one is sure that the Vietnam protests, which drove two presidents crazy, helped shorten the war.

Rhode Island's two senators, the only anti-war bipartisan duo in the Senate, are at peace with their votes and their constituencies. Jack Reed, a serious student of military affairs, reports thanks and praise. He spent part of the Christmas recess in Seoul, studying the generational change that is reflected in a desire to be closer to the North than to the United States. He is in a strong position; defiantly Democratic Rhode Island re-elected him with 78 percent in November.

Lincoln Chafee, the only Republican to vote no on the war, has fluffy blond hair and a happy face that makes him look younger than his 49 years. He got heaps of praise from war critics, and flak from Republicans who reproached him for not supporting the commander in chief. "People are anxious and still in shock from 9-11," he says. He is protected by the most lustrous political name in his state: His father, John Chafee, was a hero to liberals. He frequently breaks ranks, but escapes the shunning by speaking out at caucuses about his contrary intentions. Republicans don't want him to bolt. So when he tells them that the "moral clarity of the Bush foreign policy is a bit murky," they grin and bear it.

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Known for her long-running analysis of Washington politics, Mary McGrory is a writer to be reckoned with. McGrory's astute commentary on Watergate garnered her the 1974 Pulitzer. McGrory has been a columnist with The Washington Post since 1981 and covered the capitol since 1954.